Greetings people of earth! Dancien here with yet another Thursday post. Recently Winter Jefferson and I were conversing about the men’s fashion scene and some of the clothing made for it when he issued a dare. So I was like “Oh yeah, I’ll totally do that.”. Well, those pictures are below the cut. But the dare got me thinking. It’s 2009, Second Life is six years old. Why is it that the men’s fashion options are still pretty much crap? And so I sat in the Dan Cave and thought about it…..
I guess the main argument I’ve heard about the lack of men’s clothing, hair, and whatnot is the battle cry of “Men Don’t Shop”. Well, I guess you could be correct, in fucking Bizarro land. All those male DJ’s, dancers, content creators, and every other male who has a SL job don’t spend their money. We just squirrel it away for what? The Second Coming of Flexi-Jesus? Right….we don’t spend any money whatsoever. So before you comment with that, it’s covered and the answer is “you are wrong”. Now, when I show the dare pics I am not going to say the name of the creator. Mostly because A: I am not that much of a dick and B: I don’t want to hear the butthurt cries of me slamming a specific creator. So if you’re like “OMG where do I get that outfit!!!??” Just go ahead and leave the site.
I’m just going to go ahead and give you all a moment and then you can tell me what exactly is wrong with this picture. Right. Got it? Good. This is men’s clothing. It’s advertised for men to wear….out in public. Now dear readers, I do not know about your neck of the woods. But I am kinda drawing a blank on any guy I know that would be like “Oh yeah, totally guy wear”
There seems to be 4 categories of menswear providers in Second Life.
1: Actually has figured out what guys wear and that is why they get all the business
2: Makes Female Clothing and throws the boyfriends who are dragged shopping a bone
3: Has nary a clue about what guys want, market the shit for men anyways and hopes for the best
4: Retextures women’s clothing for men.
There also seems to be a common misconception that men in Second Life don’t care. Well, that too is bullshit. How else would you explain the rise of male bloggers? Because we don’t care? If you really believe that there is a healthy dose of Go Fuck Yourself at the door.It’s not that we don’t care. It’s just that we’re so very tired of having to spend hours sifting through a giant turd mountain to find some gems that we’re okay with wearing. Every single time I do a fashion post I spend at least a day and a half trying to find something new (AND GOOD) to wear and to show any guys that read this that all hope is not lost. But after these dare pics and walking around at Hair Fair (Read: For every 300 women’s hair there is like 10 for guys) I’m beginning to seriously doubt if it’s ever going to change. Men’s hair is pretty much narrowed down to “Hey let’s slap some prims on a sphere and make it look all messed up like they don’t bother to brush/comb it” and then there is Grunge. Look, I like grunge. I get it. But it’s like most of the male clothing out there is designed to make us look homeless. So please, cut that shit out too.
Also Stop making low rise jeans for men. We actually like being able to wear a tshirt layer AND an underwear layer that isn’t a tshirt.
Quit making shit for men that is off the shoulder.
STOP THE PRIM PANTS INSANITY!! It looks like somebody took a massive dump in them
We want clubwear that doesn’t look like Rainbow Brite rubbed Clitter all over it (Ladies, ask Callie Cline about your free sample of Clitter)
We want to be able to go out and look nice and not have it be yet another fucking suit.
Plaid is okay, but there are other patterns and textures out there.
Not all of us are max slider assholes! Some of us are just assholes.
Some of us wear jewelry on occasion.
I’d like to be able to buy MALE leather pants and not have to find out which FEMALE leather pants look alright on the male mesh.
Give to us the wide selection of shoes.
Fuck it, while we’re at it. Somebody make us some prim toes. Men wear sandals too goddamn it.
Also, not all men in SL are those wannabe gangsters that seem to be all over the place. We don’t bling, we’re not some white kid from Ohio going OG to impress the ladeez. So yes, we’d like pants WITH BOTH FUCKING LEGS at the same level.
PULL THE FUCKING PANTS UP. It prison the saggy pants make you a bitch.
Creators, you want to sell to men? Start marketing towards them. Quit marketing to the women that this what you want your men to wear. We’re not all idiots. (Credit goes to Harper Beresford for this idea) We’ll know the good stuff when we see it, yet we just don’t see it being put out. Can anybody tell me when there was a fashion show for menswear only? Because for the love of the flying spaghetti monster I can’t remember (*Looks at MAdd* Besides you)
I’m finally getting why so many men walk around with the dicks waving about and no clothes on. They just gave the fuck up.
*Drops the mic and walks off stage*
Music Listened to while writing this: Wu-Tang Clan (Remember Kids, Wu Tang Clan ain’t nuthin to fuck with)
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hahahahahahahahahahah
oh man up and just wear that stuff! don’t be such a boi.
hahahahhahahahahahaha
p.s. i think the clitter works for men too
I think this is my favourite post of yours ever, Dan. Kudos.
“The Second Coming of Flexi-Jesus? ” Just freaking awesome on so many levels.
And Callie.. I swear to god everytime I hear that damned Katy Perry song “Waking up in Vegas” she is singing “Shake off the Clitter” and I BLAME YOU!
Okay, I’ll say this much: those pants are totally not me. However, as sort of high concept male fashion (which is basically the modus operandi of the source store), I can see the appeal and it’s well-executed sculpt and texture work.
The other thing… a bit too carnival for me, but whatever floats your boat I guess…
There _are_ prim toed sandals for men. AOHARU has some at that they posted about at http://aoharusl.blogspot.com/2009/05/aoharu-mesh-belt-sandals-for-men.html and I think maybe J’s has them as well.
I don’t know, there’s good fashion out there for men that’s not just suits. More would not hurt, certainly, but it’s not a total wasteland.
I showed this blog to my 22 yr old daughter who proceeded to tell me that the only men she ever saw wearing anything resembling these outfits are the men of J-Rock. For those of you who do not know, it is Japanese Rock music and yes, these guys wear the wildest outfits you’ve ever seen, and I can see them wearing that crapola. I almost p’d myself laughing at that second outfit. Oh and someone, please make a t-shirt with the flying spaghetti monster, I so loved that!!
mmmm men’s prim toes WU-TANG!
I don’t know why you’re complaining. That Mandrake the Gay Magician ensemble is pure money.
the male outfits you chose are errr
“special”
iv umed and ard about doing male stuff for a while. I think if i did id probably do it under a slightly different brand name. Marketing to box sex’s normalcy ends up just at woman. I also think menswear is a lot harder to design.
Hey look, content creators. Want to make men’s clothing? Don’t have any idea what to make? Contact Winter Jefferson or myself and you’ll have about 40 billion ideas in under 4 minutes
HA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
Preach on Brother Man!
I think SLink has sandals with prims toes for male avs.
I recomend the &bean ‘totally unisex bra’ for you. You never can go wrong with unisex.
Nice work!
You and I have had several conversations about this, and since I don’t do fashion blogs, I have never written about this particular issue.
I think we need to hog tie some of these creators, and de-program them. Or at least have them look around and see what RL men wear.
Could not have said it better myself dude. Keep it up!
Congratulations on managing to pick the most ridiculous and flamboyant ” male clothing ” on the grid.
There are many quality options for men. They go unknown because men do not go fashion crazy with blogging and chatting about the newest shop like women do.
Yes men do buy but not nearly as much as women. Many are in it for the money so naturally are going to focus on women.
I think you have different wants and taste then some of the options you’ve seen but many of the menswear designers are not catering to people like you; instead, they are producing what they themselves are wearing and men * do * buy it.
Oh, and mens low rise jeans are a hot seller.
Ps- aside from my serious post…
When I laid eyes on those 2 outfits it bestowed upon me my first laugh of the day
I’m guessing those are from a.c store or similar. He has fun with it so atleast he’s happy.
Oh. And leave it to sig skins to blend every other skin on the market together to help make his content.
I’m not saying the outfits were not well done. Because they were. And yes, I can definitely see the market for them.
Also, the Signature Skin thing. Any proof?
@Blahblahblahwhatever – “There are many quality options for men. They go unknown because men do not go fashion crazy with blogging and chatting about the newest shop like women do.”
Don’t kid yourself, male fashion blogging is a battlefield. It’s a race to see who gets the newest releases out first. And I’ve seen – and used – some pretty underhanded tactics to this end. Low Rise jeans are a hot seller, yes. But under the pube line is way too low, and way too prevalent.
And good to see how well it was brung, Dancien. Even I didn’t have the guts to wear that outfit for more than 10 seconds. *applause*
Not any solid proof. I haven’t looked into it outside of the coversation I’ve had with him where he pretty much outed himself
Talented guy but I strongly believe he uses others work as the basis of his skin development. Any male skin designer out there can run a trans history search for ” simple spad ” and most likely see demo skins being taken by him. Look at his work and notice glimpses of your own skin looking back at you yet altered enough to go unoticed by others. If it’s true, he will slip one day and get caught.
@ winter
The small mens blogging scene may be sure. But men not into that, aka most of ones customer base, do not chat it up with their friends about fashion and word of mouth is strong.
Do a quality release for women and watch them flock in hoards to your sim. Do one for men and you normally will not get as much people there
There are some creators who start out with mens clothing , like scds beloved truth hawks, and end with a shop full of ladies items. There’s a reason for that
oh all my jeans are unisex, AND… my rebel rebel line of pants were designed with the input of a guy friend and well a lot of guys love them and look HOT in them but i dont market them to guys…
they are very LOW tho.
could show the clitter, hahahahaah
that’s sorta unisex too. ok ill stop now
I had a good laugh with your wish list of what is needed as far as men’s clothing is concerned. It seems so ridiculous for designers to label men as non-shoppers. I know I, along with most other men in SL, don’t want to look like a noob or a clone. I may not shop a lot but I do like the individualized style that comes from having a variety of clothing and accessories to buy and wear.
Hopefully someone will listen.
Here are a few pearls of wisdom that I’ve acquired from running a men’s blog and group for over a year, and I’m going to try not to repeat what Dancien’s already said, because he said it better than I ever could:
Yes, there are a few men who’d wear those outfits up there, but only a few, so there’s really no money to be made there.
The vast majority of men want to dress in an age appropriate manner. The 20 somethings like funky clothes, but the 40 somethings don’t.
Why do so few designers make male pants with the appropriate shading? If you can make stuff with a camel toe, why can’t you make stuff with a *cough* bulge?
Men will find a shop that has a style and quality that they like, and not blink an eye at spending 10K in one go.
They are ALWAYS looking for hair.
They are ALWAYS disappointed.
If they think that something you’ve made sucks, or that you’re just trying to throw something together to make a few bucks, they TELL EACH OTHER. Believe me, they know crap when they see it.
Boys do like toys. They’ll spend a lot of money on nice animations, gadgets, houses, and furniture. By a lot, I mean they don’t care what they pay as long as the quality is excellent.
There are over 500 men (or butch women) in my group, and my blog gets around 2000 hits per day, so I think I can say with confidence that guys DO buy.
Even the men that hate to shop like to look nice and feel comfortable with their avatars, and the ones who do like to shop would put any fashionista to shame.
Blahblah,
I’d invite you or anyone else to grab his demos and compare them against any skin you can think of, and go over them inch by inch to spot any similarities. I’ve looked at several of his skins very closely — I always look closely at skins I get because I never want to be in the position of blogging something that later turns out to be unethically created — and I’ve never seen anything to suggest they’re “frankenstein” jobs when comparing them to some of the more popular skins out there.
Perhaps Simple grabs demos to see what his competitors are doing, to see where he can improve his own work, to see what the trends are. Nothing wrong with researching the market and your competition.
Dragging back on topic, I do think the market for virtual fashions for men is much smaller than the market for virtual fashions for women in SL, and it’s not just because there’s fewer quality outlets. I think in general men are less likely to be caught up in the fashion side of things in Second Life, and most men seem happy to have just one particular outfit they were all the time whereas I think fewer women in SL are.
A simple experiment would be to look at quality sellers of unisex clothing or hair for men and women, and ask them whether their sales are 50/50 between male and female avatars (as far as they can tell) or if there’s a noticeable difference.
but you get to show off your abs! what’s wrong with that?…
THIS is why you were wearing the Stay Puff Marshmallow man outfit the last time I saw you! LOL Well said and I totally agree! (I’ve heard Winter’s rants! lol)
@ran
You missed my point. And no there is absolutely nothing wrong with grabbing demos. Again, point missed.
Notice I say Spad is talented and alters the work
I’m not sure if you are a skin creator so let me explain. I said I believe Spad to use other peoples work as the * basis * of his skin development. Meaning the foundation of. A border to work off of, if you will
I also state I believe the work is built upon and altered enough that the majority of people would never suspect foul play. You as someone who dod not make the skin may not notice such things, however, to someone who made their own skin, this individual may look at Spads work and see glimpses of their own skin in it.
That is what I said.
All of that coupled with a conversation I’ve had with Spad leaves me to be very suspicous of some of his facial work though I have not had the time, or desire really , to investigate further.
Amen
@ Blahblah:
“The small mens blogging scene may be sure. But men not into that, aka most of ones customer base, do not chat it up with their friends about fashion and word of mouth is strong.”
Bullshit
“Do a quality release for women and watch them flock in hoards to your sim. Do one for men and you normally will not get as much people there”
Show me a quality release, and I’ll make it rain men in your shop. Again, bullshit.
Blahblah,
No, I don’t think I missed the point, unless you’re using “basis”, “foundation of”, “built upon”, and “altered” in ways I don’t.
But to clarify:
Are you alleging Simple Spad researches the skins of other creators and then makes his own skins with the ideas they’ve given him fresh in his mind?
or
Are you alleging that he exports the skins of other creators (directly ripping or snapshotting and cutting and pasting) to his own graphics program and starts “altering” them until you can’t tell the source?
To me, the former is competitive research of the market and its trends, and it’s perfectly all right. Car makers don’t make new cars in a vacuum, they see what their competitors are doing, right? The latter, OTOH, is frankensteining skins together from disparate parts, regardless of how much you alter your sources.
I’ve long since embraced our benevolent female fashion overlords,
but as someone who sometimes, rarely still tries the “look like a guy” thing
i must say yes, there’s a giant hole where male fashion should be,
and it’s not the nice kind of hole either.
I hate when I am in ANY fashion group that’s full mostly with females (many are in fact), when a male actually say anything (mostly the alerts come when it is “likeomg” fashion question) someone or the entire group of females go on alert:
“THERE IS ACTUALLY A MALE HERE!”
“OMG I didn’t think males care about fashion.”
(add some sexual forward comment here)
Then no answer because most females won’t go out their way to help find male clothing and hair styles because they are good with what they have and only sympathized with the “male” problem.
I know men are very competent (many people aren’t aware of this and it is sad I have to say that but some of the ads made by female makers to their male customers receives a head desk moment)and very aware of actually what they want in clothing. Nevertheless, the creators (mostly women) and shoppers (mostly women) assume that men won’t take the time to look at clothing or won’t take the time to shop because they are men and don’t care how they look like or “men usually don’t do this or that” statement…but reality check THEY DO. Making hasty generalization of males about fashion is not going to make the lack of male clothing selection better.
I hear alot of women are for more high quality clothing for men, however; if the makers of their favorite brand started to make only or more high quality clothing for men then it is a different story. I hear it all the time about wishing there was a bigger options for men but after that nothing happens. The words are nice for a little while, but action does speak louder then words sometimes.
When you make hasty generalizations of what you think a male wants and thinks, you are just cutting yourself short of the core of the problem: The lack of interest (to some not everyone) of creating well made clothing for men. Last time I check the presents of males who want to look good in world is as much as females.
Oh, fuck YES, can we have some great men’s leather pants? There’s too much crap out there. I’m on an eternal quest for kickass leather pants for my husband, and so sick of finding lots of lazily-photosourced, badly-seamed low-rise leather pants.
I have to say, those two outfits on display are not my favorites from that store (I’d never wear those), but it does have some outstanding couture-type clothing for men, and I’m proud to wear my items from there. Caveat: I’m a gay fashion whore. So you know, I get that straight guys may not be into those looks. I have to say, though, gay men make up a disproportionate percentage of SL’s male population, and gay men spend a FORTUNE on how they look. Catering to the SL queers (and the androgynous crowd, particularly nekos) is a good business move. I know that I shop a ridiculous amount. I rarely ever wear the same thing twice. I can’t say the same is true for most of my straight friends. As always, YMMV.
sey has some excellent mens shirts. I do wish they would put out some pants.
It is very hard to find quality, normal male clothing, but when I do, I buy it, and as was mentioned above, price usually isn’t an issue(unless they are being greedy cause 300L for a tee-shirt is insane) if the item is quality.
Also, I do tell my male friends where I find good clothes, and where I find crap.
I absolutely despise shopping in SL because of the lack of variety and quality. Yes. I am gay. No, that doesn’t mean I have to dress like a mincing queen.
My rez date is give or take, a year ago. A baby in SL terms. I am sick to death of finding decent clothing at a handful of places (Meriken, Sey, artilleri, Armidi, etc), and scads of rubbish at others. Just what the guys need – yet another recolor of the same shit freebie.
For hair and skins, the scene is absolutely abysmal. In a year, I’ve managed to find 2 hairstyles that suit. One skin. I’ve tried many others, but I always end up back in a combination of Truth and Abyss.
My partner and I own an island. We have spent thousands of USD getting the builds, the textures, the trees, and everything just to our liking. We are not cheap. I won’t bat an eye paying what some would consider a ridiculous sum, so long as it is quality.
My friends and I do talk when we find quality clothing, getting back to my point. We will go out of our way and out of our normal haunts to look for something new and different.
The problem is the lack of selection – if I wanted to look like every other gangsta idiot on the grid, with bling on every attachment point, and prim pants hanging down past my ass, I’d be set.
I’m tired of designers designing for the girl/boyfriend set, and not those of us who will actually fork out the L$ for quality.
As a designer I will give my input on this topic. I believe the reason that there is such an abundance in womens clothing vs. mens is because when I release a womens outfit, I immediately have 10-15 people in my store buying it and that is only what happens within minutes. When I release a mens outfit I sell maybe 3 tops that day. I’m sure you can do that math and see why most would lean towards womens designs if they are in this to make money. Sadly I follow what brings me the better amount of sales too, though I do enjoy making both.
Dear Anonymous Designer,
If you put out quality mens clothes on a consistent basis, you would, eventually, gain loyal customers of the male gender.
If you put out one or two things and then huff and grump because you only sold 3 of them in the first day; you know, before word of mouth got out and whatnot, and then give up, of course you will not make money on mens clothing.
I am fairly sure, when a designer first started making womens clothing, it did in fact take a bit to gain a reputation and loyal customers. That’s how business works. If you are known for womens clothing and decide to branch out, wonderful, but it will take a little while for men to get the word around, and take a bit longer to gain loyal customers, it will also take more than one or two outfits.
@anonymous designer
Maybe the problem is where you and others are doing your announcing/advertising. As stated above, men aren’t made to feel welcome in groups that are predominantly female.
When I first saw the saggy pants in SL, I literally said oh dear god no. I’m not hating on people who wear em, do your thing, but come on? I think there should be more good male fashion in SL. A plethora even. Come on designers lets get clackalackin! lol
Lovely outfits. Those black pants are…um….yeah. They *are*.
If you were into gothy stuff, I’d say Silentsparrow is a sure bet. My sweetheart only wears hya’s stuff-no bling, low rise pants or saggy trousers in sight.
@Eliza Wrigglesworth
LMAO im laughing my ass off at how offensive you are getting.
Oh and I never said a hoard of men do not come, I said not as much compared to women.
I am sure different situations is cause for different outcomes, but my statements are typically true. Women can not wait to get their hands on things, most men are not like that.
I can point out SEVERAL creators (already mentioned T. Hawks) who begin with mens clothing and end with womens. Again, there is a reason for that.
No, MOST straight men do not sit around all day and chat about fashion. However, ALL of my female friends are constantly on voice yapping about the new (insert various names here) releases. Not to say that all females in general do this, or that no straight men ever do this. But *typically*… females are just more prone to run out and get new releases.
Visit Kmadd, costa rica sim, or gloom shopping centre’s. Yes, there ARE quality straight male clothing out there. it does exist. Men DO buy it, and they buy alot. BUT not as much as women buy. Im not saying that if you take a male and a woman shopper that the women comes out with more stuff, theres other factors, ONE individual man may indeed spend as much as ONE individual women. But the amount of men doing this vs women doing this is different and it cant be blamed all on bad releases or bad advertising.
I read time and time again on SL forums where men make comments such as “ive been wearing this same outfit for months and im fine”… or their sl partners trying to “make them over” because of it. its not that there are no options out there, its that alot of them are satisfied with what they have.
@ Ran
Am i not explaining myself correctly? I have a lot on my mind and not even sure why I keep coming back to comment.
Yes I am saying I believe him to be using glintercept, or the likes, to gain posession of others artwork, and using said artwork as the foundation of his building process.
Someone asked me if I had proof. My answer was NO.
These are personal beliefs I hold. And I will say it again – if indeed it is so, he WILL slip up one day and get caught.
@ blahblahwhatever -
Blahblahwhatever
Yeah, I’d pretty much say you hit the nail on the head with this one. Those outfits are just…interesting.
I was going to suggest Form, but noticed you already had a few t-shirts from there in your goth post.
*still way up there giggling at the second coming of Flexi Jesus*
I never understood why men are on SL anyway. It’s so . . . girly here. *ducks as everyone throws things*
This post was fabulous. It’s rare that a post truly makes me laugh out loud. So thanks, Dancien. That Chippendale’s-meets-Masked-Magician thing is . . . LOL . . . just too damn awesome on you.
*throws flexi dongs at Emerald*
You mean you don’t wear stuff like that on a regular basis? Damn, and I was about to start fan-girling you, Dancien!
Well, this post makes it official, I’m jumping on that Dancien fangirl train I’ve heard so much about.
A few things:
- Men should never wear sandals. Ever.
- A lot of the good looking male avatars in SL are women in disguise. I learned this from doing the Make Him Over hunt.
- While there are a good percentage of men who care about how their avatar looks, from my experience they’re still in the minority. Many men truly don’t care about how their avatar looks, because it distracts them from their goal in SL. I’ve attempted to make over many a male noob, just to be met with pure confusion. “Why are you making me so short? Why are my shoulders so narrow? Where do I get a dick?”
- Designers who still make baggy pants need to get off of their computers and out into the real world, because NOBODY WEARS BAGGY PANTS ANYMORE. Not even the thugged out types.
Finally finished processing photos and got a chance to read this, and just about fell out of my chair laughing. What Isle said on the “second coming.”
AND AND AND
Amen. Amen. Three times, Amen.
Why do I only have one pair of boots I wear all the time? ’cause I’m not into goth knee highs with spikes and buckles. Took me four days of looking, four bum buys to find them.
I want a belt. Actually I want several. Nothing all glitter, just… well, you know the gals have great belts. I want some great belts.
And hairs. There are some good ones, sure – but let’s face it. We need more hair.
And hey, how about a decent watch to go with my Ao that is always lookin at my wrist? I’ve been lookin, there are *some* – but not as many as there are bracelets and bangles. Not by a long shot.
… anyway Dan, ty for making my night – and prolly my tomorrow too.
I can’t breathe. I’m laughing too hard. Oh my fucking god. Hahahaha. I can’t fucking breathe, there are tears in my eyes from laughter.
I have both sandals and barefeet for men at Slink. Just FYI
http://blog.slinkstyle.com/2009/03/new-barefeet-and-sandals-for-men/
And more styles coming
“Mandrake the Gay Magician”
he makes cocks dissapear into his mouth!
“Oh, and mens low rise jeans are a hot seller.”
probably what mandrake wears after the show, right?
“Men should never wear sandals. Ever.”
why?
I think whoever made that shirt that read “my dick” and had an arrow pointing down for the MHO hunt should be shot in the head after getting a pineapple shoved up their ass.
By good male fashion, are people talking the generic “good” fashion of The Gap/Abercrombie & Fitch/Hollister type clothing so they can look like every other male walking around IRL? How many wrinkled layered t-shirts does a man need? How many different ways are there to make a pair of pants?
RP/Fantasy/Gor designers make awesome male clothing, but get little notice on any fashion blogs. What’s up with that? Yet when places like a.c. Store try to make interesting clothing, people laugh at them, or worse.
I run a tiny little shop selling men’s and women’s clothing, and can say from my experience that, yes, it is much more difficult to make “realistic” looking men’s clothes – Skirts don’t require a lot of detail, but a pair of pants, OMG!!!
bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Oh jesus, that is some funny stuff. <3
Cheeno Destiny the designer of A.c Store is a really nice guy and has made some good stuff. This is exactly like putting pics of above outfits with the word NO! under it. And to me it looks like you put your sliders up too much so I can’t see how you say you aren’t a “max slider asshole”. Also, it would of been nice to read a post without seeing the word fuck in every paragraph. Sorry for getting so “butt hurt”.
Ha.
I take your issue seriously because, I had to dress the men in my Second Life. It’s fucking hard to find menswear for Assholes. As a lifetime Asshole magnet, I hope and pray that SL designers will make this shit easier for not only men, but those of us who have to dress them, and remind them to change their clothes.
You say that you want clothes marketed towards the non-muscleheaded dudes, yet you are one of those who looks pretty much like all of those i’ve seen. you have a pretty cliche shape.
And here I thought I made weird shit from time to time.
As a suggestion, you and Winter (and anyone else who cares to) ought to blog wishlists of things you’d like to see in SL that you haven’t found yet, since you mention you’ve got a bunch of ideas. Either people will point you to examples that already exist in world, or maybe some creators will like the ideas and create them.
The more things change the more they stay the same….
Hopefully by the time SL catches up to modern technology and makes a viewer that is compatible with my graphics card without exploding prims I might log back on to go shopping.
There is plenty of good male clothes out there, but fact is, most guys know of them and end up shopping at the same places and then you get the ‘generic guy’ that lurks around SL. This is where shapes become so important but the fact that most people shop for them instead of making something unique means you get the army of clones around.
Anyway rant over, but this post makes sense on some levels, but I seriously don’t think it is that hard for a designer to make mens clothes that are stylish and appeal to people out there. I can also bet you that by offering a decent range of mens clothing, you will get the loyal guys who drag their gf there upon a new release, thus exposing yourself to these girls as well.
+ 3839393900202 Gattina Points for the Wu-Tang mention.
Alright kids. Leave your butthurt at home. Dan had some comments to make and he made them without mentioning names. If y’all mention names in your comments, so be it, but don’t blame Dan for it.
A couple things.
1: I made it a point not to mention the stores name. I also made it a point to say it was well done because it is. So to those of you who did out the name and are calling ME the dick? Go look in a mirror.
2: Yes, by all means attack my shape in pictures and then come see me in world. I am dwarfed usually by the Kmadd shapes.
3: I swear a lot. If it offends you, stop reading k?
And Francois, I’ve met you inworld before. Stood right next to you and we’re pretty much the same size. Guess that makes you one as well.
SRS BSNSS, men have big ugly feet and I don’t want to see them. I’ve seen those prim feet/sandals mentioned in the comments; they make me cry.
I’d love to make mens clothes, but I find myself having a hard time working with the mens mesh, its all lumpy and bulky… I’m hoping I’m not the only one with this problem.
Sakka’s Studio recently released prim toe sandals for guys.
http://beaniecanning.wordpress.com/2009/07/03/new-prim-toe-sandals-for-men-women-from-sakkas-studio/
J’s Real Toe Men’s Belt Sandals.
Good and affordable.
um why do all those MENS “toe” sandals look like the toenail is painted?
The one posted earlier looks like it has a freakin french manacure(sp?), and the ones possting by beanie look like nail polish all over them.
umm??
“Even I didn’t have the guts to wear that outfit for more than 10 seconds. ” LIES LIES LIES You would never not do a dare no matter the outfit, I have pictures, PROOF, that I swore not to show so I wont. LOL! Danc, this is your very best post dude, I SOO wish I could design cuz I’d be a lindenaire from male fashion designs. BTW SLink does have prim toe mens sandals and from what I remember from the ad they looked pretty good too.
P. S. THIS is probably why so many men are in woman avatars.
“P. S. THIS is probably why so many men are in woman avatars.”
Did y’all just now figure this out?
Designers: Quit making garbage for men.
Men: Quit making damn ugly avatars.
~V.
This is really funny.i cannot even hide my laugh.But the fact behind this one is extremely true.
Katy’s video is fun while Gaga’s is just GAG!
Wow… Some second life players really don’t joke around with the mens clothing fashion of their characters!