Comments on: LL Changes “Notecard Permissions”

By: blah-blah

blah-blah — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 06:46:51 +0000

“the Lab for fixing this serious permission exploit that allowed fullperming any script, object, texture, animation or whatever.. seriously, make up your mind.”

still have not … lacking details … is it confirmable that permissions CHANGED inside a notecard? or do the items snap back into original permission flags on arrival? surely that undermines copy and transferability settings. my main point of interrest is about changing modify flag on scripts, since that lill’ detail would completely break many dependand vendor systems & stuff

By: Average Resident

Average Resident — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 19:19:42 +0000

it doesn't matter how good this change is, I need to bitch about SOMETHING!!!!

By: Baily

Baily — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 05:21:50 +0000

Err isn't this a good thing or have I missed something

By: Skills

Skills — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 23:15:48 +0000

Emerald had nothing to do with this and it didn't allow you to put non-fullperm items into notecards either. I don't quite understand why people are bitching about the Lab for fixing this serious permission exploit that allowed fullperming any script, object, texture, animation or whatever.. seriously, make up your mind. You won't be able to edit notecards inside objects without the 1.23.5 viewer, but Emerald and most of the other 3rd party viewers will release updates very soon.

By: Lizzie Lexington

Lizzie Lexington — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:05:37 +0000

LL needs to decide if they are going to be open source in sharing their code or stop it all together. You can't be only halfway open source – that really goes against the spirit of the open source community.

By: Ann Otoole

Ann Otoole — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 12:12:11 +0000

LL fixed my defect!
* VWR-13868[c]: Sculpted prims in complex linked sets vanish – Raised 'RENDERMAXNODESIZE' from 4096 to 8192

By: Dale Innis

Dale Innis — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 11:13:49 +0000

Yeah, I think all that about notecards being broken for ppl using 3rd-party viewers was a bit, um, premature. Not to say utter BS.

By: Lewis Luminos

Lewis Luminos — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 10:26:06 +0000

I use Emerald and I've just tried a few things with notecards, opening, modifying, saving etc. Everything works as it should. I don't see what they've changed, except closing the security loophole. Am I missing something that SHOULD be allowed and isn't? I couldn't find anything wrong.

By: Kabalyero

Kabalyero — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 08:34:45 +0000

Haven't used the official viewer for a long time. Ha ha. They just gave me a reason to download and install it again.

By: Business-in-your-box

Business-in-your-box — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 07:16:43 +0000

Okay after further reading I think that I understand the recent upgrade…

The official SL viewer only allows full perm items to be sent in a notecard, but the check if the item is full perm or not is only client (viewer side). Some 3rd party viewers saw this as an exploit, and disabled this check, so residents could put non-full perms objects in notecards. (see where I'm going with this?)

Basically, some 3rd party viewers (Emerald etc) allowed no transfer items to be put into a notecard. This meant that you could put all your copy permission only items into a notecard and give them to your friends or in some cases send them to entire groups of people, and people will get these items for free!

This has been going on for some time now, but recently the increased popularity of the Emerald viewer due to the jiggly boobs effect, has made it an urgent security bug for LL to fix, as more and more people were sending out no-transfer items in notecards.

By: Business-in-your-box

Business-in-your-box — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 05:58:52 +0000

LL is doing "buddy" deals with Dreamland, once again... https://blogs.secondlife.com/thread/3581

By: Business-in-your-box

Business-in-your-box — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 05:44:53 +0000

Strangely, this notecard 'bork' coincides just a day after the release of the 'jiggly boobs effect' in the Emerald viewer – Possibly something that LL doesn't like its image to be associated with? If so, in future expect 3rd party viewers to be totally phased out by LL.

By: Business-in-your-box

Business-in-your-box — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 04:38:35 +0000

When will people realize that LL can do whatever THE HELL THEY WANT! You can moan and complain, but they'll always have the last say. That is the way it will always be. One day, they might even decide to make the 3rd party viewers totally incompatible.
SL is not a democracy, it is a dictatorship. If you don't like it, then really should give up playing altogether and do RL stuff.

By: Let’s go to Austin | Living on a Prim

Let’s go to Austin | Living on a Prim — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 04:10:39 +0000

[...] Notecards Naughty? No Notice? The Disco snags a good one (unless they made the shit up). [...]

By: scd

scd — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 01:49:40 +0000

I think it's kind of clever for LL to intentionally break notecards to regain people using their viewer. Now if only they'd stop fucking around and adopt the some of the awesome features of the third party viewers…

By: Gabe Bookmite

Gabe Bookmite — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 01:47:13 +0000

Oh okay how lame. I communicate with different people thought notecards and lets face it some third party viewers are better then the SL viewer. Do you think the over popularity of these viewers is what made LL say "Look here we are going to fuck up notecards for all yall so come back to us"?

By: Jori Watler

Jori Watler — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 01:41:17 +0000

This is a HUGE deal – meaning that any resident on 3rd party viewers or running the older releases will NOT have be able to open/edit notecards.

Scripts, vendor notecards for merchants – it's something "not revealed" and very damaging – this is a critical issue – and LL is not releasing the "changes" they've made.

They are however recommending (not forcing) the new viewer. Pitiful.

By: Jori Watler

Jori Watler — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 01:37:36 +0000

This is a HUGE deal – meaning that any and all residents on 3rd party viewers or running the older releases will NOT have be able to open/edit notecards.

Scripts, vendor notecards for merchants – it's something "not revealed" and very damaging – this is a critical issue – and LL is not releasing the "changes" they've made.

They are however recommending (not forcing) the new viewer. Pitiful.

By: Jori Watler

Jori Watler — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 01:36:58 +0000

This is a HUGE deal – meaning that any and all residents on 3rd party viewers or running the older releases will NOT have be able to open/edit notecards.

Scripts, vendor notecards for merchants – it's something "not revealed" and very damaging – this is a critical issue – and LL is not releasing the "changes" the made.

They are however recommending (not forcing) the new viewer. Pitiful.