Comments on: LL Stands Up; Trips Again

By: 3blahs1whatever

3blahs1whatever — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:52:12 +0000

I agree with Ann, has anyone sent any emails/faxes to those companies ? Especially including the math work down at the bottom? I dont know where the figures came from or how accurate it is but if its anywhere near accuracy I think they would like to know LL is pocketing money made from infringing goods.

Filing DMCA against a fellow resident who stole from us personally is more to protect ourselves and our work, but submitting tickets against a fellow resident who is infringing on RL copyright, is more so to protect LL and theyre stupid as hell if they turn a blind eye. LL is like krez mcallister(aka francois ghost, aka jewish gearbox, aka etc) – they got away scotch free for so long so they think they can continue to stay in their fucked up ways and everyone will go along with it.

By: 3blahs1whatever

3blahs1whatever — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:51:50 +0000

Filing DMCA against a fellow resident who stole from us personally is more to protect ourselves and our work, but submitting tickets against a fellow resident who is infringing on RL copyright, is more so to protect LL and theyre stupid as hell if they turn a blind eye. LL is like krez mcallister – they got away scotch free for so long so they think they can continue to stay in their fucked up ways and everyone will go along with it.

By: 3blahs1whatever

3blahs1whatever — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:49:25 +0000

By: 3blahs1whatever

3blahs1whatever — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:45:17 +0000

"rumor has it if you try to file a ticket with Linden Lab about infringing content on XStreet, a URL via email is not enough – they want you to mail hard copies of URLs to their front door in San Francisco!"

Says who? I hope that is just a rumor. If not it must be LLs way of trying to turn people off to the idea of filing a DMCA.

Also, the new content road map is scary, not necessarily a good thing IMHO. Just like the elitist modiva move, and land community "partnerships" they do, the content road map seems it will take only a handful of people who meet very strict criteria and oh well for everyone else. It was obvious it was coming.

By: Jori Watler

Jori Watler — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:16:46 +0000

I for one would love to know who is the marketing genius at LL – as their definitely sucking ass!

By: Jori Watler

Jori Watler — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:15:33 +0000

not for the benefit of the merchant? I can see both sides of the coin – as a shopper – "omg.. no freebie" or as a merchant .. "they want to make all items as PAY – to get the commission"

For LL – it's about "cleaning" up the listings – or so they say, but it would seem they want their piece of the pie – that 5% – for ALL items listed on Xstreet.

Also .. from what I have gathered – LL is trying to "clean" up Xstreet – and we all know how that will work -

By: Jori Watler

Jori Watler — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:14:28 +0000

not for the benefit of the merchant? I can see both sides of the coin – as a shopper – "omg.. no freebie" or as a merchant .. "they want to make all items as PAY – to get the commission"

Also .. from what I have gathered – LL is trying to "clean" up Xstreet – and we all know how that will work -

By: :))

:)) — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:17:51 +0000

Why do we care?! Big deal if someone is knocking off Gucci. RL handbag knock-offs are big business in the States. I would think Gucci is more concerned about those anyway. And why does it hurt us? If we don't like, we don't buy. Better to focus our attention on the SL content creators who are being copied then corporate giants. I mean, who really cares.

By: Shopper

Shopper — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:52:31 +0000

Yes they love to profit off copied and trademark infringing items but when a store costs them a little money…Like hmmm offering free, demor or cheap promo products to in-world residents and they want to clamp you down.

http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Commerce_Office_H…

A big change is a comin' and not for the merchant's benefit

By: Merlynn

Merlynn — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:06:50 +0000

Shouldn't take an act of god to remove items like Gucci, Prada, Vuitton and Chanel virtual knock-offs and the like, from xstreet OR in-world… I'm about 99.9% certain that no one on the grid has permissions to sell virtual recreations of any of these corporations' goods, but I guess it's possible (yes, I HAVE seen a profile or two that contain a 'letter of permission' to sell a certain extremely well known RL brand, but I seriously doubt the legitimacy of that particular 'permission slip.) .
I understand the reluctance of LL to get in the middle of resident vs. resident accusations due to the sometimes 'witch hunting' mentality that spawns some of the DMCA filings, but come on — when it comes to globally well known trademarks that are obviously victims of infringement, what does it take to get LL attention? One of these days one or another of these victims of trademark infringement is going to get seriously pissed and take SL away from ALL of us… one really meaty lawsuit from any of the afore-mentioned corporations might be enough to do exactly that – right or wrong, deeper pockets prevail.

By: scd

scd — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:00:00 +0000

It's not even about them HIRING folks really – many residents willingly police XStreet.

The problem comes in where they are asking folks to do all kinds of crazy shit to get the infringing items removed.

By: Ann Otoole

Ann Otoole — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 12:54:35 +0000

Better to notify the legal department of the brand owners. They will not be interested in some kid with no money. They will go directly after Linden Lab and remind the lab as to why they made that policy and why it is important that the lab hire the resources needed to police xstreet as well as second life by deleting repeat offender accounts and then having them arrested if they make an unauthorized return.

By: Kat_Alderson

Kat_Alderson — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 12:50:42 +0000

I get that error every time I report an item, and from the way it looks, it is merely a broken acknowledgment page. If you try to report it again, it tell you it has already been reported.