MUNDO SL participates in Fashion Payola

I guess Iris is a bit prophetic. I should really upgrade the presents I give her on occasion and stop beating her in between posts.

Google cache does wonders – here’s a shot of the paid-for post, now since removed from Mundo SL.

Mundo SL has recently accepted monetary payment for a favorable post. Now, this isn’t necessarily their fault – the person they reviewed has offered to pay several other bloggers, and while they declined, Mundo accepted – whether fault of being green in the SL fashion industry or they really wanted the money, we probably won’t know.

Lucianni Writer and the content thief hung out together on the day of the investigations. This shot was taken shortly before I was banned from the sim.

The issue is, the person that paid them is a content thief and was reselling items from Redgrave, Naughty, and X2. Thanks to the sharp eye of Bex Hathaway and Genna Gray, this content thief is on her way out the virtual door.

More info below the cut, and a link to the full story.

Fellow [ida] model, and friend Genna Gray and I went shopping at Rahz after she read on the MUNDO blog where to find some shorts that she wanted. Shortly after meeting her at the store, we realized that the shorts and other items were not made by the store owner. The store was filled with posters of various well known designers’ items, with the Rahz tag. Adjacent and above the Rahz store also were suspicious vendors, selling by box multiple skins from recognizable stores. These stores carried stolen clothing and skins from Redgrave, Celestial Studios, Naughty Designs, Refuge, X2 for fact. We also suspect that other outfits were taken, but with the urgency to post, we will refrain from speculation. (show a picture or two here)

We quickly began to investigate with the assistance of a few friends. After confronting the store owners who intitially claimed they had personally made the outfits and skins, they quickly took down the items, defending themselves by repeatedly declairing that they bought all the items with full permissions. We tracked the names and LM ‘s they gave us, but realized it was way bigger than us.

So we did as much as we could, contacting the designers who’s items were used, showing them the photos and chat logs. After a return visit to the mall, we tped in on the blogger from MUNDO (Lucyanni … ) and Rahz store owner (Rahz…). Rahz admits to us that MUNDO accepted payment to blog about her store, even though it was clear her items were stolen. Lucyanni argues she didnt realize anything wasnt original even though this store looked like the advertisment pages from any popular SL fashion magazine. Also, at the point of our tp in, their conversation consisted of Lucyanni instructing Rahz which items were most clearly stolen and in need of being removed before our story went out. (You be the judge.)

Read the full story here: http://www.imagendivine.com

… does IP and copyright protection apply in this instance? Was Mundo wrong tp accept payment? What do you think?

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Comments

  1. anaboogiewoogie says:

    Well I dun think Mundo is greedy for accepting payment for posting a blog. Some bloggers won’t blog stuff unless it’s given to them for free. Which, in my mind, feels like the same thing as accepting payment. — Either way you gotta give something to get it back.

    Do I think it’s wrong? Yes, in both cases. I think it’s wrong for some bloggers to only blog stuff given to them.

    As for this whole thief thing, it just doesn’t stop. There’s sooo much being stolen these days. But it’s all just like RL. People make rip off designer purses and people buy them off the street thinking they’re the real thing. Just like they do in SL. Thing is, the fake thing just doesn’t stand close to the real thing. I wish it wasn’t like this :/

  2. Sasy Scarborough says:

    way to give me a heart attack Tenshi, I logged in freaked out that Digits designs were stolen (and I’m very upset anyones were) but typo Tenshi, I was freaked you hadnt IMd myself or Digit and then only to try and track down you and eventualy thankfully Genna Gray who explained it was x2 not X3D…anyway I’m glad Genna and Bex found such a thing, we are all blessed that everyone in SL watches out for everyone so diligently.
    it’s like neighbourhood watch :o )

    xoxox Sasy xoxo

  3. The Diva says:

    Damn….why didn’t they ask me to blog them? I’ve been kinda naughty this year…doubt santa will bring me anything and with that money I could have bought some cool new stuffs. :(

  4. Genna Gray says:

    Hey Tenshi thanks for posting your personal perspective of this story and linking to the [ida] blog as well. It’s not just a case of it being a disappointing trend, but it’s illegal. At least in SL, there seems to be more of a “paper trail” to follow than the stuff you can buy off the street. Another difference is that knock off bags and clothes will not be made of the same quality fabrics that the originals are made of, but in SL, the textures that were copied from Redgrave were exact duplicates. Not just a similarity in style.

    Lastly, just wanted to make a small note of correction. Tenshi stated: “The issue is, the person that paid them is a content thief and was reselling items from Redgrave, Naughty, and X3D.”

    It was actually X2 skins that were being repackaged and sold, and not items from X3D. Got a concerned note from Sasy Scarborough and I wanted to clarify that ASAP.

  5. anonymous says:

    “Lucyanni argues she didnt realize anything wasnt original even though this store looked like the advertisment pages from any popular SL fashion magazine.

    Also, at the point of our tp in, their conversation consisted of Lucyanni instructing Rahz which items were most clearly stolen and in need of being removed before our story went out. (You be the judge.)”

    What a bad liar. No doubt she wanted to keep the money by blogging someone she knew was a thief while covering her own ass in the process. Tsk tsk Lucyanni, you ought to be ashamed of yourself, making everyone who associated with you and posed for your “celebrity pictures” look bad. Then again being endorsed by BH isn’t the best of credentials.

    Nice job on the expose Genna and Bex.

  6. Alyssum Therian says:

    All I know is Mundo asked me for a bunch of clothes to help them get started and she hasn’t blogged about me once. I know my skill level isn’t up there with LC & CS but why ask for my clothes at all?

  7. Anonymously Lovely says:

    Alyssum- Mundo asked for my clothing quite awhile ago now and did not blog it. That pisses me off. Im no longer giving free copies out anymore because people keep asking and saying they are going to review and they dont!

    Now, back on topic. In RL, design corps pay for “favorable reviews” ALL of the time. So whats the big deal. They are not wrong for accepting the money and reviewing.

    HOWEVER, you say this person is a thief? If mundo knew they were a thief and took the money and blogged, shame on mundo sl. If they did not know they were a thief then that’s a different story.

  8. Wasn’t this the blog that the Brutal Honesty people said set the standard for all other fashion blogs? God help us.

    And Alyssum, Mundo is not the only blog that will request items from designers and never follow through on reviewing them. There are certain bloggers who are in the habit of requesting EVERY new release from particular designers, with absolutely no intention of reviewing them. If someone requests review copies from you, make sure to get a link to their blog first, and an approximate timeframe in which the review will appear on their blog. After all, if they are ASKING you for items, they must want to review them, right? Surely they wouldn’t be asking you just so they could get free stuff……

  9. Ana Lutetia says:

    Heyas!

    This was a funny story… I went there was a translator since Rahz doesn’t speak english. I am grateful that the girls asked me to be there or else I would know I had in my inventory stuff from a brand that stoles content. While I was there I returned all the stuff to Rahz and declined the review.

    I would never accept L$ to make a good review and that’s why I refused Rahz money.

    It’s really sad that bloggers ask stuff and don’t review it. I only ask stuff that I admire and want to review but I always tell the creator that ‘no’ is a good answer. Also, I also usually send the link to the review.

    Another thing and speaking for myself: I am on a budget, I don’t have an SL income, I buy stuff with my own real money and that is why I mainly review stuff received. Don’t get me wrong, I believe in advertising or should I say blogging about new products but whenever I blog something I know that the content creator will make a profit out of it. The thing that puzzles me is blogging stuff that I spent money on it and the content creator making a profit. So, I pay to advertise someone’s else creations…? That doesn’t feel right at all. Dear content creators, don’t get offended by my opinion but I never hidden it and that’s is where I stand.
    I know I would have more blog freedom if I only reviewed stuff that I bought and if I would take review copies but I haven’t win the lottery… yet. ;)

  10. Ana Lutetia says:

    (BTW and I must insist on this: Rahz and Lucy are Brazilian, not Portuguese, even though they speak Portuguese. )

  11. smiletenshi says:

    Well, Steph, that just goes to show you that you can’t believe a thing that awful blog says. :)

    At SCD we blog both what we buy and some review copies. I actually have a few review copies waiting in the back of my inventory – I’ve been a bit slow, I was sitting on a few stories and now I’ll get back to the clothing. :)

  12. Shelley says:

    i’m willing to bet most bloggers receive stuff that they don’t blog, especially the big ones. so is this that big of a deal? of course not.

    and the people at brutally honest cracked open the mercury scandal, outing someone here if I recall. so it makes sense that u’d want to ‘dismiss’ them. it seems as of late that u want to be just like them with your tabloid style.

  13. smiletenshi says:

    Shelley, you’re such a wonderful troll. I’m afraid I don’t have any comments for you on that Mercury issue; however, SCD was around way before BH, and therefore, we win by default. Now, stick to the discussion.

    In case you missed it, we’re talking about Mundo SL accepting payment for a favorable blog about a content thief! Strange, strange stuff!

  14. Sasy Scarborough says:

    Just my two cents on the asking part, from personal experience only, I know that sometimes you can get inundated with so many review items from incredible designers and try your hardest to keep up with the load in your posts.

    Many times I blogged 3-5 designers in one post just to keep up, not just mix and matching but showing complete sets in all colours etc, but it can take hours of time each day and I used to post everyday….there are times though that you can have a clear direction of where you plan on going with a post and miracles occur that drop something else perfect into your inventory to go with that look or theme, and then that item or items skips ahead of the rest….and then there are those NEW releases that you will die if you dont post them right away just to have an excuse to drape yourself in them lol.

    Sometimes it just takes time to have a blog that asked actualy come up with the post, BUT! I do not in any way think it is not your right to follow it up, if they came to you asking for items to blog, then that is to me a intent to do so, so follow them up on it, ask why its not been posted yet ? was there a misunderstanding etc…that way they realise they have an obligation to you….its the reverse of those that say in review copies info that they aren’t obliged if its sent…if they ask, in my opinion they are.

    Yes Stephanie is totaly correct on her comment about bloggers who ask for every new release and NEVER blog those items, thats so disapointing on so many different levels, and unfortunatly those designers keep complying out of a sense of ‘If I don’t, they wont ever blog me again” mentality :( .

    Bloggers are not employed (unless working for a magazine I guess, but I dont know about those ) it is a voluntary choice to start a blog and to decide if you want to review items bought or recieved, yes unfortunatly nowadays in SL many look at the blogs with a kind of bitter taste thinking that the majority only do it for the free items they get, I get asked all the time by designers who they should send to, I have actualy said this before here , check out the blogs in advance, make sure ‘HOW’ they blog is how you want your store and items represented, watch their blog for a week or so and then approach them or notify them again if they came to you.

    Anyway I’m rambling, two more things though…..I do not know the circumstances of this Mundo post on the items or store in question, I do however know that Lucyanni approached me a while back about blogging the two stores I manage and she did a lovely presentation of the clothing and hair, and yes there was a spread out amount of time on the posts of the various items, but all where eventualy shown, so I have no complaints about her as a blogger, again I suggest following it up rather than being resentful of it , sometimes it can just come down to organisation of inventory lol and not realising you have missed a folder.

    Secondly *smacks Tenshi * that BH blog has nothing to do with Mundo, they posted that her layout and her just showing clothing and accessories was the way they personaly liked to see blogging done, nothing more, to connect the two blogs together is like saying your blog is like the disney channel, because you happened to feature a bunny in a post a while back .

    Let Lucyanni have her mistake, we all need to hope that it was just that, and my conversation with her earlier as brief as it was (when yesterday because of my heart failure you caused I IM’d her to find out the name of the store) leads me to trust in the fact it was , a mistake …accepting money is her business, blogging on stolen items is a mistake we all hope we never make, but with the grid being so huge and her being so new to SL these things unfortunatly can happen….give her the chance to move on from it having learnt something valuable.

    anyway sorry for huge comment this box is too small lol

    xoxo Sasy xoxo

  15. Moisie Swindlehurst says:

    Stephanie’s comment made me laugh. Like, a lot.

  16. Shelley says:

    “SCD was around way before BH, and therefore, we win by default”

    Ok, congrats? No wonder people think you are childish.

  17. smiletenshi says:

    Thanks for playing Shelley!

    And beg pardon Sasy, I wasn’t the first one to mention BH on this post. Go smack her instead.

  18. Whimsy Winx says:

    OH SNAP! Damn I just saw the pictures first on the blog, and though DAMN I HAVE to write down that store name cause I NEED that outfit, and thank GOD I read your blog first, cause I would have NEVER known it was stolen content.

    Good job Bex & Genna.

    Tenshi-Good job for alerting people!

    It sucks that stores think they need to pay a person to blog them, when they could have easily sent out freebies to bloggers (which I really don’t think matters) and paid for an ad on Mundo.

    I am new to blogging but in reading blogs I have never cared if I knew the item being blogged was given to them as a review copy or purchased. Bottom line it comes down to whether or not as a shopper I like it enough to buy it. I could care less about the next hottest must have item unless I LIKE the way it looks. When I started blogging recently I made the decision that I would only blog things that have caught my eye, and if its a freebie from a hunt, a freebie handed out to me, an item purchased-if I like it I will talk about it simply for saying “hey check this out”. Just like I would in RL to my friends. In a way I suppose it might be vanity press, but I don’t care to bash someone’s designs cause at the end of the day they tried to make something and I didn’t.

    I judge a store or designer by their appeal to ME. There are tons of stores I don’t shop at because they carrying items I am not interested in wearing but are very well made, but just don’t suit me in SL. I’m not a neko, and there are amazing neko items out there, I love steampunk, but I am not in SL. I wish I were a harajuku girl but thats what I want to be in RL. There are stores with such great stuff that I can’t even begin to shop like I want to there.

    I think a lot of people in SL simply buy something cause it’s ‘hot’, or they effect a look don’t want to look ‘mainstream’, it’s a VIRTUAL WORLD, there is no status attached to how you look other then IF you can effect a look thats not screaming BLING SKANK, or NOOB. Save that labeling crap for RL, we..aw shiz I went off on a tangent didn’t I…Let me get back on track… If you are a shopper buy what YOU like-not cause its hot. That takes away any real vanity press.

  19. Ana Lutetia says:

    (back)

    Lucy IMmed me explaining about the payment. In case you don’t know, she’s not comfortable writing in English (like Rahz). So, here’s a resume of her IM to me.

    Lucyanni Writer: I don’t charge anything to make the looks in my blog. I only charge when people ask me to do ads and Rahz asked me to use the pics for advertising in her store. I believe that Rahz didn’t made herself clear and made this mess.

  20. smiletenshi says:

    Or that Lucyanni made a mistake in clarifying their blogs policies.

  21. Fashionistic bitchinista says:

    Let me understand this correct: Content makers will not give a sample of there stuff (which cost nothing to make a copy off)? And the blogger then makes pictures (even sometimes with a lot of talent) makes the postprocessing and sometimes even sets it up profesionally like a proper graphic designer, writes a lot of words and the sale rises for the content maker?

    W O W…

    What is the benefit for the blogger? I mean… this is a proper moneymaking bizz for the content creators… but not for the bloggers?

  22. smiletenshi says:

    Not really, Fashionistic. Bloggers for the most part just keep the items they reviewed, and that’s payment enough. Not that, you know – we really want payment.

    Many blogs say “No, we don’t want review copies.” That way they can pick and choose which designers they want to support – the best, from what they can tell. Other places, like SCD, do a mix – we purchase our own items as well as taking review copies. If we don’t want to review a piece, we’ll usually say so… but we haven’t had a lot of issues from that end whatsoever. Usually only designers who are confident in their work will submit review copies.

    /me rambles.

    Blogging is sort of a hobby, no income intended. It’s really quite unethical to accept payment for a positive blog review – that’s like paying a waiter to get you a table, faster. Not exactly the right way to go about it, but it does happen – as in the case of Mundo SL here.

  23. Fashionistic bitchinista says:

    That is really what amazes me most about SL. All the creative people working for free, and then some who really makes a lot of money. Why do creatives often share there stuff for free? Are we stupid?

    I can easily follow the point of not getting payed, and not even getting free samples of stuff, to be a free spirit. But, I am sure that soon you will be caught in other stuff, like social belonging, the need to howl with your friends etc.

    What often suprises me is the ‘snobbish’ attitude of content creators. Do they apreciate what your doing? and will that appreciation be your payment? So in the end you ‘whore’ for that?

    Why couldnt an honest payed blog be as okay? I mean… it is me… the end costumer who decides in the end if I like what i see enough to buy the stuff.

  24. No we dont ask for money to blog the clothes, you need investigation better. We receive only wen people ask for our job in rl agency only.
    If somebody want investigate just ask to the owners of stores I show in my website!
    Thanks you.
    Lucyanni

  25. Sasy Scarborough says:

    Nope Tenshi you still get the smack because this stuff always has a way of turning around and biting YOU in the bum, I was trying to also remind you that your better than that, and this is your blog with others, you shouldnt even give that other blog acknowledgement no matter how often its mentioned.

    xoxoxo Sasy xoxo

  26. smiletenshi says:

    Lucyanni: Are you saying you did not ACCEPT money for this favorable blog post? That the money was not OFFERED? I’m not sure anyone said you asked for it – we are under the impression that it was offered, and you accepted.

  27. Smiletenshi.
    I cant understand why people said that and judge me.
    I NEVER accept money or ask for money to blog the clothes in my blog, you can ask to the owners of stores.
    Do that and if somebody said I accept money you back to talk to me.
    Thank you.

  28. Anonymously Lovely says:

    @ ANA “The thing that puzzles me is blogging stuff that I spent money on it and the content creator making a profit”

    That’s true but thats what alot of SL blogging is about, people just talking about new outfits THEY bought and they love.

    Now, if your blog gets many hits, that’s another story, in that case you may be looked up to for what to wear, and in these cases, the designer should *want* to give you items.

    This, my friends, is why people in RL PAY for people in the public eye to wear there wares and what not. Its nothing new under the sun. I don’t think its needed here in SL, and infact, I dont like the thought of it, but, it *does* happen in RL ALL of the time. Im not understanding the big deal here. Woopie someone paid someone to blog them, so what. Go boycott public television and any band you see wearing name brand clothing religiously. Paid advertising.

  29. Anonymously Lovely says:

    @ SHELLY “I’m willing to bet most bloggers receive stuff that they don’t blog, especially the big ones. so is this that big of a deal? of course not.”

    Shelly, you’re missing the point hun.

    If a designer willingly gives a copy in hopes of a review, the reviewer has every right *not* to blog it. They blog what they like. (Unless we’re talking RL where people review things they are PAID to review, regardless of if the product is a shitfest :)

    But here is the scenario people are upset over:
    Reviewers (blog owners) have been IMing SL designers and saying something like this: “Hi, I was wondering if I could get a copy of that great new outfit you released, I really love it and would like to blog it”

    Weeks later, no blog post on the outfit, months later, still no blog post.

    Reviewers are getting free items with no intetion to blog, or free items with no accountability to blog. Its ridiculous and needs to stop.

    From my time as a designer, I have been approached by a handful of people who wanted review copies. However, some of them just don’t review and at this point im convinced they probably had no *real* intentions of blogging it. Perhaps the thought of blogging it ran across there mind, but with no accountability to blog, they are left with free outfits, and the designer left wth no blog post.

    Sorry but that isn’t acceptable. I’m done bending over and getting f*cked in the ass.

  30. Anonymously Lovely says:

    To sum it up (Sorry for all of the posts!) I will remember to read everything next time and answer in one long reply.

    If someone blogs something just because they got it for free (designer gave to them in hopes of a review), to me, that’s the equivilent of someone paying them to review it. There is no difference. Both blogged because of obligation, not out of self will.

    In RL a large percentage of what you see was paid for by the designer. We see this from tv commercials, to more personal things such as designer corps paying a figure in the public eye to wear their items. We dont see this in SL, and I hope it stays that way.

    Blog what you want, but let it be what you like. Not just something you blog because you feel bad the person gave it to you and it was shitty, or because someone is paying you to blog it. At the same time, dont withold a blog on items just because that designer pwns your clan of designer friends. But thats another issue in itself.

    ———————-

    @ Teshi Vs Fashionistic

    Tenshi is right and I agree with her stance. Blogging here is a hobby. There are severel blogs that blog me quite often, do they ask for review copies? No. If they did would I give them it? Yes, but grugingly. Why? Because to me thats similar to paying them to blog me, and also I would feel like it was them removing their support out from under me.

    I am in total support of these blogs and do what I can to advertise them at my shop, because when they go to my shop and buy my things, and blog it, that is them being in total support of me. And I like that. Theres nothing wrong with it.

    Sure I bet I get some new sales from a blog post they did, but I still cant shake the weird feeling I get when people ask for a review copy. But maybe thats just their business..literally, while others do it as more of a hobby and PREFER to buy the outfits themselves.

    To each their own.

  31. slcop says:

    http://slthieveshunter.wordpress.com/

    I found good proves about MUNDO SL and RAHZ

  32. Genna Gray says:

    I would like to add just a few more thoughts here. When I first saw the Mundo SL picture of Rahz Store on the Fashion Planet feed, I thought it was another blog post just like the ones done above and below it. She uses the same background that she has on other blog entries. I saw this as a “review” and therefore endorsement of the outfits pictured. This is where I was confused because Lucyanni Writer says it’s an advertisement she was paid for. But there was no indication that it was an ad. Just seems unusual to me. There is also still a flash ad on the sidebar of the Mundo SL website as I write this for Rahz store. The blog post was removed but the ad remains in the smaller version.

    Secondarily, I have read Lucyanni’s explanation on Mundo SL of what happened. In it she says two things that really bother me and that I would like to respond to. First, on the accusation that the writers of the article here and at imagendivine agency are prejudiced against Brazilians. I would have had a problem with anyone selling stolen textures as their own. I don’t care what side of the equator a person is from, that is just wrong. It’s true that there was a language barrier, but that is why I brought Ana Lutetia in because she was able to help translate. I wanted to make sure we understood what was going on.

    And furthermore there were no snap judgments made. We did not just tp into the store looking for trouble. I was looking for some cute shorts. I happened to notice that there were a lot of outfits there that looked familiar and before I said anything, I did a lot of research, visiting close to a dozen stores before I figured out where they were from. I took pictures and came back to Rahz store to compare before bringing it to the attention of Miabella Foxley, co-owner of imaginedivine agency.

    Did we blog this just based on some pictures? No we then headed back to the Rahz Store and asked the owner (and Lucyanni who happened to be there) what was going on. She told us one thing and then something completely different. We left and came back a third time to talk to them and figure this whole thing out and while I was looking at the Redgrave copies (which were still up an hour after we informed the owner that they were stolen) I was ejected and banned from her store without warning. This was not someone who wanted to work together to solve this issue. We wrote the story based on what information we had which was solid and have the chat logs to back it all up.

    Yes, there may be a bigger issue on who is selling the stolen content to store owners, and we’ll be following up on that. But I don’t think the entire blame should be shifted from either the owner of Rahz Store or Lucyanni Writer. Both should have been more aware of the products being sold and where they came from. As someone said above, though, perhaps they will learn from this and do better next time.

  33. smiletenshi says:

    I concur with Genna… she and Bex did at least three days of research prior to this article hitting her blog and SCD. I think the biggest issue we’d face here is a language barrier; but it doesn’t surprise me that in lieu of such a thing, Lucyanni is changing her story. Happens to the best of us. The bit that bothered me most about the situation was how the “designer” and Lucyanni thought they could speak Portugese (they’re BRASILIAN <<for Ana) over me like I wouldn’t have a damn clue what they’re talking about. As soon as they found out I knew a little Portugese – enough to figure out what they were saying – I was banned.

    You know, this IS interesting though- http://slthieveshunter.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/rahz.jpg

    Go check out that screenshot from the SLCop’s comment above. I’m not sure what website that is, but it appears Lucyanni has begun a group – an owner of it, nonetheless! – to promote this Rahz store.

  34. slcop says:

    I’m just a little lost right now
    what rahzinha pera did is WAYYYY worse than what lucyanni did
    both are wrong, both KNOW EXACTLY what they were doing but all we hear is about the other girl
    I have plenty more stuff (proves u may call) about a lot of thieves, specially on that website, that’s an ocean of thieves…
    more names and lm’s will come up
    but right now, why noone speaks about the REAL THIEF Rahzinha Pera?

  35. Sometimes, when you bring up a negative point about someone’s product (I subscribe to the “honest is better” policy, though I’m never bitchy about it), that person will never again send you something to review. Even if you liked their product overall.

    I don’t blog everything I receive. I can’t. If I can’t see the product as mostly good, I won’t blog it. However, I’ve asked for review copies maybe…5 times? And all five, I blogged it within two weeks. Consider it payola? Perhaps. But I’m poor lol.

    Seems Mundo was busted. Advertising/review – it’s all the same on your blog, huh?

  36. slcop says:
  37. irisseale says:

    Pheonix, I honestly can’t say that I think asking for review copies is payola. As fashion bloggers, we’re doing this for fun and not money, as was brought up before. There’s a line that one eventually hits that divides the ‘fun’ from the ‘omg, i need more linden.’ I like being able to take home most of my profits from Punch Drunk and rarely keep much Linden in the game. Most of the time this isn’t a problem, as I usually review things that are dropped on me. On some occasions, though, I’ll find something that I just HAVE to review and it’s on those occasions that I ask for review copies. The way I justify it to myself is that at least one person will see and buy the items I asked for from the blog, so the creator’s not technically losing a sale. Of course, if I have the linden or don’t know the designer beforehand I won’t usually ask for a copy.

  38. smiletenshi says:

    Iris has more balls than I do. I never ask for review copies if I can help it – I think I asked once, when we reviewed those awesome drop-away silks! Then Iris beat me with them and sent me flying off the sim. Hah! :)

  39. When I have asked for review copies, I do offer the designer the option of transferrable items I’ll give back after my review if they like. That way, they know it’s more about me liking the item and wanting to feature/review it on my blog as opposed to just trying to score free stuff. Also, I don’t tend to do many new releases, so I guess it also helps that I’m asking for older stuff from them too.

    I definitely do this for fun and not money or free stuff (though free stuff is a bonus of course :D )

  40. slcop says:

    Tenshi… maybe if we work all together we can try to stop those thiefs of spreading…
    keep reading my blog and whenever u can post something about that ppl.
    we should all report them and make them get banned maybe…

  41. Rahzinhaa Pera says:

    I SPEAK pORTUGUESE. I dont Speak ENGLISH.

    Gostaria de esclarecer alguns pontos fundamentais aqui: Em priemiro lugar fui acusada por este blog como uma criminosa, eu e a Lucy, colocadas em evidência de maneira negativa o que me provocou um desgaste na imagem da minha griffe e na minha loja, assim como na minah vida SL, o que representa danos materiais e pessoais. Meu avatar sou eu. Ma chamo RAFAELLI AMARANTES, estudante universitaria de Moda, tenho 19 anos, moro em Sao Paulo, Brasil, Amarica do Sul. Não tenho porque esconder minha identidade muito menos minha real personalidade. Sou honesta, tenho etica e trago pra cá ( dentro do Second Life) todas minahs características. Por isso não admito ser incriminada e acusada como se eu fosse uma bandida, uma ” stpolener” que nem sei oq ue signifcaq em ingles( lingua que nao domino nem tenho obrigaçao de saber uma vez que stamos numa cibercultura onde lingua é o que menos importa. Vocês deveriam saber que eu nao falo ingles, que entendo muitoi limitadamente a vossa lingua e , memso assim, fui bombardeada de questionamentos e pre-julgada, 0fendida, humilhada. Quando as senhoras Genna Gray, Miabella Foxley, Tenshi Vielle and Bex Hathaway chegarma na minha loja não ceharam pra me da um alerta e sim agressivamente acusando eu de vender produtos copiados, que alais era cinco ou seis. MInhas roupas sao produzidas por designres e eu acompanehir a produçao de tres deles, um delees chamado RenatoMohamed Pessoa, naoa companhei que foram jsutamente as roupas masculinas e, de acordo com o que me foi mostrado por voces relamente sao roupas copiadas , tomando conhecimento disto corri e retirei tudo da loja, poque nao admito copyleft mesmo estando em uma cibercultura. Nao admtio a copia. Assim como nao permito que minha loja venda produtos copiados. Nao tinha conehcimento que as roupas 2 camisas e duas jaquetas masculinas fossem copias fieis dos podutos REDGRAVE, assim como desocnheia que elas fosse já de algum outro designer. Comprei direito do designer que me vendeu tais produtos como sendo exclusivos ao qual associei meu nome achando se tratar de um produto inédito. O que nao era e já o procurei para saber explicaçoes e ser devolvido meu dinheiro e minah dignidade.
    acho um absurdo completo o fato de vocês falarem uma lingua que nao falo e ainda virem em acusar. A senhora Ana Lutetia ( que felizmente nao é brasileira, demonStrando completa xenofobia e preconceito por ser PORTUGUESA, PROPRIETARIA DE UM BLOG QUE SOH SABE FAZER COPYLEFT DE OUTROS BLOGS, QUE MAL CONSEGUE PRODUZIR AS FOTOS QUE ELA TIRA E COPIA DOS OUTROS BLOGS. E POR ISSO TME INVEJA DO BLOG DA LUCY, POR SER UM BLOG ARROJADO E COM DESIGNER PERFEITO, QUE ESTA TIRAND0 O SONO DE TODAS VOCES, MUITO PREOCUPADAS COM O SUCESSO ALHEIO) nao veio traduzir nada, veio sim acusar e traduzir como bem queria, ou seja destilar seu veneno contra o rancor pro ter um blog imcompetente e nao perder a oprotunidade de disparar ofensas, como bem demosntra aqui num tom preconceituoso e racista, que bem sei é crime , e foje as regas dos diretos humanos: December 1, 2007 at 12:59 pm Ana Lutetia -(BTW and I must insist on this: Rahz and Lucy are Brazilian, not Portuguese, even though they speak Portuguese. )
    E mais, quero esclarcimentos deste site que esta sendo denunciado já. Apesnar de ter 19 anos, sei muito bem meus direitos e não vou ser prejudicada pro danos morais e materiais , uma vez que não esotu brincando de moda, muito menos bricnando de “casinha” e bonequinha. Se as camsisas copiadas pelo designer, estivessem irregulares nao pdoeriam acusar um trablho todo e colocar eu e a Lucy como criminosas em foto estamapda no sites e blogs do mundo. Isto é um absurdo, um crime, um assassinato. Somos avatares conehcidos no Sl Brasil e estamos sendo vitimas de negatividade na nosa imagem pro vossa culpa que deveraim ouvir, se fazme joranlsimo sabemq ue que as duas partes devem ser ouvidas e nao incriminar-mos. NAO TEM O DIREITO. QUEM PENSAM QUE SÃO.
    A Loja consta de 150 produtos e destes apensas 4 eram copias, o que foram retirados iemdiatamente da loja e deixadas fora de venda . Gostaria de epdir desuclpas a proprietaria da loja copiada Emilia Redgrave, e dizer que o dinehiro que paguei pelas roupas do desigenr sera devolvido a ela. assim como a orupa copiada pelo tla designer.
    Se o trablho de vcs fossem dar um alerta que dessem que foseme claras, que pocruassem me ouvir e entneeder e nao ir acusando, agredindo, hu,milhando. VCS SE APROVEITARAM DO FATO DE EU NAO FALAR INGLES , ASIM COMO A LUCY, PARA SE PROMOVEREM. Isto mesmo se promoverem, oq ue e injusto, desleal e antiético.
    Até agora , sinceramente , nao entendi o objetivo de tudo isso, poque se fosse denuciar as roupas: que denunciassem, que procurasem o designer e o incriminassem senhroas juizas, uma vez que viram que no memso dia eu mesma fui pessoalmnte e retirei as roupas ( 2 jaquetas e duas camsias e 2 skins) DA LOJA. Entao pqoeu tanta confusão? ACHO MESMO E QUE TME INTERESSE POR AI. OU seja envlver a jornalista Lucyanni Whtitre na confusão para colocar em descredito o Blog dela que e um sucessso, ao contrario de muito ai. E por ser um blog em lingua portuguesa com forte acesso massivo de falntes de ingles e outras linguas.
    Fora isto nao devo satisfaçoes a vcs, porque vcs não tem o direito de intervir na minah SL vida. Não tem e nao devem; preconceituosas e xenofobas.
    O SL é um ambiente imersivo onde estamos lá pra viver uyma segunda vida, mas acredito que fazem dela uma vida mesquinha e precopada em acabar com o outro, o próximo, querendo iumpor sua supremacia, quando na verdade somos todos iguais. O SL é de todos, e mais, vcs não sao melhores que ninguem. Falo meu portugues com todo orgulho e nao faço a minima questao de falar vossa lingua, mas faço questoa de traduzir esta resposta praque todos entendam, proque sou educada e nao deixo os outros sem saber oq ue esotu falando, como aconteceu comigo, onde recebi cicno mulheres flando ingles e eu sem entender o minimo doq ue estvam a falar.

    Nao preciso aprnder liçao nheuma porque quem soa voces pra ensinarem-me algo. Interesseiras, querendo pegar trablho das grande slojas pra fazem desfiles e promoverem a marca delas. Ou seja o interrsse de vcs , cara Miabella Foxley é se promover em troca de apresentar-se como uma defensora dos lojistas e na verdade nao passa de uma forma de se promover em nome dos outros, acusando injustamnte e , oq ue e mais pior, desonestamente. Porque sabia que eu nao falava ingles e nem pude sequer me defender e explicar, e memso assim me acusou duramente assim como a Sra Lucy.

  42. Rahzinhaa Pera says:

    TRANSLATION TO ENGLISH FOR MY FRIEND:

    I would like to clarify some key points here: In first place, was accused by the blog as a criminal, and I Lucy, put on evidence of the negative way that I caused an erosion in the image of my griffe and in my shop, as well as in my life in SL, which represents property damage and personal. My avatar me. Mi name is RAFAELLI AMARANTES, college, student of Fashion, I have 19 years old, living in Sao Paulo, Brazil, South America. Not because I hide my identity much less my real personality. I am honest and ethics and looking down here (in the Second Life) this is all my characteristics. So, I do not admit offending and be accused as if I were a criminous, a “stpolener” eving I do not know what it means in English (language which does not have obrigation to dominate, because how you know we are in a cyberculture where language is the last important thing . You should know that I do not speak English, who understand very bad your language, and, well, I was bombarded for questioning and pre-judged, humiliated. When the ladies Genna Gray, Miabella Foxley, Tenshi Vielle and Bex Hathaway came to my store, the did not came just for warning me, but aggressively accusing me of selling products copied, which was five or six. My clothes are produced by designers and I check the production of three of them, including one of them, called Renato Mohamed person, I did not see it was his clothes for mens, according to him. I have been shown by that was really copied clothes, taking note of this and ran off all of the shop, because I do not admit copyleft even standing on a cyberculture. I do not admit any copy. Like do not let that my store selling products copied. I did not know that the clothes: 2 shirts and two jackets men were true copies of the REDGRAVE´s products, and also they were already of some other designer. bought right of the designer that I sold such products as being exclusive to which joined my name thinking it is a new product. What was not and has tried to explain and be refunded my money and my dignity.
    It´s a complete nonsense think the fact you speak a language that I speak not yet come in and complain. Mrs Ana Lutetia (which fortunately is not Brazilian, showing a complete desrespect and prejudice as PORTUGUESE, a blog´s owner, who only knows DO COPYLEFTs OF OTHER BLOGS, and can´t PROduce THE PHOTOS THAT SHE AND STRIP COPIAtes from OF OTHER BLOGS. She have envy OF THIS BLOG OF LUCY,who has a execellent style. VERY ANXIous with the other´s life has not translate anything, but came acknowledge and wanted to translate as well, or distilled their venom against the rancor for have a blog imcompetente and not lose oprotunidade to shoot offenses, as well demosntrated here in a unconscious tone and racist, which I know is crime, and against the rules of the human rights: December 1, 2007 at 12 : 59 pm – Ana Lutetia (BTW and I must insist on this: Rahz and Lucy are Brazilian, not English, even though they speak English.

    Plus, I wanna informations from this site that is being denounced now. I have 19 years, but I know all my rights and I will not be hampered for moral and material damage, since I am not playing of fashion, much less playing of “box” or with dolls. If the copied shirts are really a copy from this designer, were irregular could not charge jobs around and put me and Lucy as criminal in pictures on websites and blogs in the world. This is absurd, a crime, a murder. We are famous avatars in Sl Brazil and we are victims of negativity in our imagem for your foult that should hear, like jornalists, the both sides should be heard and not incriminated. You don´t have this right who you think you are?!

    The shop consists of 150 products and those attached 4 were copies, which were withdrawn imediatelly the store and left out of the sale. I would like to apologies the proprietary of the shop copied Emilia Redgrave, and say that the money who paid for clothes of desigenr will be returned to it. And the copied clothes by tla designer.
    If your job would give a warning that would be a clear that for intent to hear me and understand, and not acuse, or agressing, humiliating. You have act based in my few knowledges in English, to promove yourselves, wich is unfair and unethical.
    Until now, frankly, I do not understand the purpose of all this, because if you want to design the clothes, you should have look for the designer and incriminates him, since we saw in the same day I pulled it went personally and the clothes (2 jackets and two shirts and 2 skins) OF SHOP. So why all this confusion? I think it was just for interes, I mean: involve a respected journalist as Lucyanni Whtitre in this confusion to put into discredit her and her´s blog with is famous, as opposed others. And as a blog in English with strong access from English´s speaker´s and other languages.

    Outside this, I have not the obrigation for give any kind of explains, because you has no right to know about my Second life. It has not and do not have to.
    The SL is an environment, where you live a second life, but I believe they do it a life hoard and concerned to stop the other, the next, wanting put their supremacy when in reality we are all equal. The SL is all, and more, you know about that better than nobody. I speak Portuguese with all my pride and not do the minimum issue to speak your language, but I made question to translate this answer to everyone understands, because I am educated and not let the other without knowing about my speak, as it did me, which received five women´s speaking English and I believe, without the minimum consideration about what I was speaking.

    I don´t have to learn any leson, because you want to get products from another stores to make parades and promote the brand of them. That is the the most important thing, face Miabella Foxley is to promote in exchange for present itself as a defender of store owners and indeed not only a way to promote on behalf of others, accusing
    us. Because she knew that I did not speak English and not even I could defend and explain, eving that so hard accused me and the Mrs. Lucy. So I have to say that I am sorry for you for being bad loved women´s. Cya!

  43. irisseale says:

    Rhaz also submitted that two-foot long comment in Portugese, but I didn’t approve the comment yet. If anyone wants it in Portugese, too, let me know and I’ll slap it up there. I can’t say I really understood much of that, though. Also, I hear Rhaz is going to sue us and imagendivine for (cough) xenophobia? Also–and this is a personal pet-peeve; please don’t tell me you’re famous. Isn’t there an addage about how if you have to say ‘don’t you know who I am’ then you really aren’t who you think?

  44. Yes says:

    Iris, you may wanna have a little sit down with your clinical pitbull then.

  45. Ana Lutetia says:

    No need for the comment in Portuguese.

    RahzinhaA Pera is going to sue me as well. I already filled two complaints against her in SL because of the way she treated me in her IMs last night. I don’t admit being mistreated like I was or I admit rudeness towards me.
    Besides, I am over 30 and I have a problem dealing with childish behaviour.
    I challenge anyone that was in that situation to proof that my behaviour was xenophobic. By the portuguese law, that’s a crime and that’s why I filled a proper complaint.

    BTW, when I met Lucy she told me that she started her (first) blog because I inspired her and because she was a big fan of my blog. And again I have a witness that can second me on that. Then she started Mundo SL (which is a great blog) and I compliment her like I have done before with her first blog.

    I HATE drama.

    I was called there to translate because the non-portuguese speaking wanted to understand what was going on and wanted to explain what was going on. In the situation was another Portuguese avatar (another witness) that stayed until I left.

    —-

    RahzinhaA Pera também me vai processar Entretanto, já efectuei 2 queixas formais sobre ela acerca da forma como ela me tratou ontem à noite em IM. Não admito ser maltratada e não admito faltas de respeito. Além disso, já ultrapassei os 30 e não tenho paciência para comportamentos infantis.

    Desafio todas as pessoas envolvidas para provarem que tive (ou tenho) um comportamento xenófobo. De acordo com a Lei Portuguesa, xenofobia é crime e, por isso, preenchi uma queixa formal.

    Quando conheci a Lucy ela disse-me que iniciou o seu primeiro blog por me considerar uma inspiração e por ser uma grande fã do meu blog. Mais uma vez, tenho uma testemunha que poderá confirmar isto. Mais tarde, Lucy criou o Mundo SL (que é um excelente blog) e disse-lhe que o blog era muito bom tal como o tinha feito com o primeiro blog.

    ODEIO drama.

    Fui chamada para traduzir para quem não falava português percebesse o que se passava e para explicar em português o que se passava. Na situação concreta, estava outro avatar português (mais uma testemunha) que esteve lá até eu me ir embora.

  46. tradução em português abaixo.

    as most of you know, i’m brazilian. i don’t want to start that “do you know who i am” talk, but i’m also relatively well known around SL as a designer/ content creator, being on the fashion scene since march this year. during all this time i never felt any prejudice, actually quite the opposite. and honestly, i really don’t see any prejudice here, much less from ana lutetia.
    i’m not one to judge, but all this defensive attitude from rahz, accusing everyone of everything, is not the expected attitude for someone who is innocent.
    just my two cents.

    ***

    como a maioria de vocês sabem, eu sou brasileira. e sem querer começar com aquele papo de “você sabe com quem está falando”, acabei ficando relativamente conhecida como designer e criadora de conteúdo, uma vez que estou desde março na cena fashion do SL. e durante todo esse tempo, sinceramente, não senti absolutamente nenhum preconceito, muito pelo contrário. e, sinceramente, eu não vejo absolutamente nenhum tipo de preconceito aqui – muito menos vindo da ana lutetia.
    eu não sou ninguém pra julgar, mas essa atitude da rahz, de agir na defensiva e acusar todo mundo em volta, sem muito motivo, não é atitude de quem é inocente.
    só um toque, tá?

  47. smiletenshi says:

    Okay, all this arguing in portugese is hurting my head. I refuse to read that entire diatribe by Rahz, but I think this whole “I’m gonna sue!!” thing is beyond silly. She obviously doesn’t see the full scale ramifications of attempting such a thing.

  48. smiletenshi says:

    Alright, I take that back. I did read a bit of it, and, well, my COPYLEFT doesn’t permit me to comment. :)

  49. /me hugs Moire…..even though i don’t think we’ve met (?). This statement “all this defensive attitude from rahz, accusing everyone of everything, is not the expected attitude for someone who is innocent.” makes me feel like you came right into my head, pulled out my thought and posted it here. Thank you.

    I can not even believe that this has come to someone thinking they can sue us (shoppingcartdisco.com and imagendivine.com) for…what was it…”Xenophobia”? I had to look it up. Wikipedia says “Xenophobia is a fear or contempt of foreigners or strangers”. lol, the way I see it?….this is Second Life…..we are all foreigners…or maybe, we are all locals, take your pick! I haven’t judged a single resident based on where they are from in RL, ever, because it makes no difference. Oh wait…I lied; I once met someone who lived near me in RL and I thought that made them super cool, but I digress…

    A comment regarding the post by Fashionistic bitchinista. Is a paid blog ok? Sure it is!!! IF the readers are aware that the blog is actually advertising and not just someone’s opinion. ‘Cause, when you pay someone to write good things about you and publish it to the public, it is advertising. If you do not make the public aware, then it’s payola.

    By the way…..have we received an answer yet about why Lucyanni was listed as the owner to that online community Rahz Store group?

  50. Anonymously Lovely says:

    ” but i’m also relatively well known around SL as a designer/ content creator, being on the fashion scene since march this year”

    lmfao that’s not long at all and i’ve never heard of you. Perhaps march of next year.

  51. slcop says:

    ely, she was complaining about the bad publicity about her… saying she is gonna sue we all (she posted on my blog too) because we all affected her sales, her moral and bla bla bla
    I’m brazilian and I understand everything she says or tries to…
    I have a screenshot here of rahzinhaa pera selling her products to a guy, it happened few days ago….
    I wasnt going to post it on the blog but maybe I should… maybe she will stop saying she has nothing to do with the stolen stuff
    we’ll see

  52. smiletenshi says:

    Anonymously: I’m going to revert to the new SCD rule: Stay on topic or find your comment ability taken away.

  53. smiletenshi says:

    @slcop: You’re saving us so much trouble, we’ve added you to our blogroll! Thanks for being you! :)

  54. Rahzinhaa Pera says:

    Dear Clients and Friends

    I feel very sorry to come now to you this way, to answer about what happened this week.
    As you know, I have been accused to plagiarize and robbery and these people never gave me the opportunity to express what happened, causing me unhappiness and disbelief in front of serious people who are worried about the journalistic integrity on Second Life.

    ”There is no eternal facts, as there is no absolute truth” – Friedrich Nietzsche

    There are many ways to tell a truth and one reality, but each of these ways can carry a dose of poison, manipulation and it is even possible to decide which people to favor or to harm. Because of this, I believe this truth was manipulated to attack me using serious accusations, bad words, without any moral, by the simple fact that they haven’t offered me the opportunity do discuss both truth: mine and of the authors of the journalistic report.

    As some of my clients and a great part of my friends know I am a fashion student, and have been dedicating and studying, I got a reasonable knowledge, especially for young person like me. I use Second Life as a tool to improve myself and to practice a lot about fashion. Because of it I give a considerable credit believing in people who deserve my attention, when I see their creative value. Then, I offer my help to show the work of these people in my Label. Unfortunately I was wrong about one of those people, who was not honest to me and it made me get non original pieces, which created all this misunderstanding.

    A client told me about a possible break of Copyright of these pieces and because I couldn’t find the creator of them on time I asked for help for some people, to check all to be sure if it was true or not. Unfortunately my search was not fast enough to avoid the problem, causing a bad image of me to my clients and the fashion world of Second Life.

    Most of all I honor the copyrights, not only inside Second Life, but also in any other situation of real life; that’s why I carry the shame because I believed in wrong people, who never deserved my innocent attention. Maybe this was my biggest mistake and the way I was an amateur, to believe in these people showing and selling their work in my store. I admit I should make a serious and complex search about the source of their “inspiration”.

    From now on I am doing all to solve this problem with the support of my friends, clients and the real creator of the pieces, which were sold in my store. But, most of all, I want you to accept please, my sincere apologize for this.
    I believe that, even after this simple fault the journalists made, when they didn’t talk to me before publishing the report to clarify the situation (which should be the correct behavior facing the journalistic ethics), the author of this “investigation” could open the space for my eloquence and, believing in the public judgment, it would then be clarified at last.
    Unfortunately I was victim of a linguistic deficiency, which affected my credibility in front of my suppliers.

    I am sure the moral and ethics of these journalists will allow the space for me to explain all on the blogs where this report was published. I believe in their professional talent and once again I apologize for this big misunderstanding.
    So, after all, I invite you to visit and see my store and all the pieces I have there, showing my label is crystal clear.
    It will be my pleasure to talk to you in person.

    Once again, please accept my sincere apologize and thank you very much for, indirectly, showing me these problems.

    Best Regards,
    RahzinhaA Pera

  55. *le sigh*

    i don’t usually answer to trolls, but i wanted to make it clear. like any sane person, i find the “i’m a slebrity” mentality ridiculous. i’ve just mentioned that i’m relatively well known, at least on the retro niche, to make a point that there’s no xenofoby on the SL fashion scene. at least, i couldn’t find any, maybe i’m looking on the wrong places :P

  56. Bex Hathaway says:

    Xenophobia…learned a new word today.
    Rahz started out the conversation with us in English, then when we told her what we saw, she only spoke Portuguese. We wanted to understand what she was saying to us, so we called in an interpreter.

    All of this talk from her saying it’s because she’s Brazilian/speaks portuguese is to try and distract us from the fact that she was selling stolen goods.

    Her famous avatar in SLBrazils good name is being tarnished? Perhaps thats because no one wants a thief in their community.

    On topic, I think if you’re paid to advertise something for someone, that’s ok, but don’t pass it off as a shiny endorsement of your own free will. Because, then you’re just lying to your readers, and discrediting the blogging community as a whole.

    And for goodness sakes, I would think if you’re endorsing something, you would at least visit the store first to see if it’s something/someone you would endorse…and not just sell your name away to the highest bidder.

  57. smiletenshi says:

    lmao, oh god, s/he quotes Nietzsche! What a student.

    Well, Rahz, let’s hope you get this straightened around and become an upstanding SL citizen. This threat of “I’m gonna sue you!” is just laughable.

    I know, Bex – she banned me after she found out I spoke a bit of Portugese, enough to understand her and Lucyanni. Go figure. I should sue YOU for discrimination of knowledge!

  58. Rahz, you wrote:
    “A client told me about a possible break of Copyright of these pieces and because I couldn’t find the creator of them on time I asked for help for some people, to check all to be sure if it was true or not. Unfortunately my search was not fast enough to avoid the problem”

    Are you saying that you didn’t take the items down b/c you couldn’t verify that they were stolen yet? Maybe I am just misinterpreting, but, if this is the case then you truly are at fault here. If you suspect stolen goods, they need to be removed immediately. Don’t wait until you have finished your investigating; take them down NOW!. Then you put them back up if it turns out you were mistaken.

  59. Genna Gray says:

    I still don’t get how Rahz is saying this was all because she spoke a different language. She had a translator there and so did we. We were there a very long time asking lots of questions and the conversation just went in circles. and it was more than a couple shirts that were copied. Don’t forget the skins, too. I also recognized a lot of your women’s clothes as those being sold in a few other full perms stores. If people don’t believe me, go to Rahz’s store and then compare what she is selling with the inventory of Dawn Shop and the pictures from slcop’s site of Crystall Mathy’s stores. If you are a reseller, you should advertise yourself as one and give full disclosure that the clothing and skins on your wall are not created by you. You should certainly know where you got them from or who the original creator was before putting them up for sale. Those copied items had your name on them on the store posters, so one would assume you made them. Then again, there is an image of a woman in the “Claire” coat by Refuge that was I guess was just for decoration because although on the wall of your store, was not for sale.

    Rahz, you say you are a fashion student/designer. Could you send us pictures of what was actually made by you in your stores? I’d like to see your work. If you took down all the content made by other people from your store would you have anything left to sell? If you do have designs of your own, I encourage you to put those out. Make your own way.

    Lastly, if I was xenophobic, why on earth would I regularly visit the Mundo SL blog to see where I could buy what she blogged about including those shorts I saw the other day. I didn’t expect to find stolen textures. How would I know they were there unless I visited the store first and see them with my own eyes? I didn’t come for drama. I just wanted to purchase an outfit. But I also don’t think it’s right to profit off other people’s hard work and creativity. I know I did the right thing.

    P.S. – Please leave Ana Lutetia out of this. She was doing a favor by coming to translate. She should not be punished for that. And if she wanted to clarify that you are Brazilian and not Portuguese, that is not racist. People in Canada speak French. But Canada is not France. They are two separate countries. I believe she was just trying to get the facts straight.

  60. slcop says:

    I just saw something at orkut.com that kinda worries me… I’m gonna translate

    Stivie: .. Como muitos aqui ja sabem a Linden so toma partido se no caso for Trademark copias de coisas da RL ou se por acaso o cara do SL tiver realmente uma Marca na RL.. (…)
    Lances de Skins, Hair,Shape nao da em nada, rola sim uma amizade com os Lindens e eles removem ou se for o caso deleta sua conta ou deixa ela uns dias trancada…

    Stivie: .. As many of you here know, LL only resolve about copies from Trademarks in RL or if the person has a trademark from SL in RL.
    I’ve received millions DMCA and the answer will always be the same.. (…)
    Copying skins, hair, shape won’t make you get in trouble, some owners are friends from the lindens so then they will remove, delete your account or put it on hold for some days…

    IS THAT TRUE?

  61. slcop says:

    is it true that DMCA doesn’t work if you don’t have a trademark?!?

  62. To clarify, Trademark refers to protecting your company name/logo, literally your trade mark (Pepsi, Armani, Microsoft), copyright protects your creations (drawings, photographs, songs).

    You own copyright as soon as you create something , BUT the burden of proof is on you. You have to be able to prove you made it first. You can prove this if you have registered your creative work with your government’s copyright office. Is it impossible to win a dispute without registration? No…but….can you prove you are the creator? Yes, it is unfortunate that we have to go through hoops to protect out own work.

  63. Anonymously Lovely says:

    “Anonymously: I’m going to revert to the new SCD rule: Stay on topic or find your comment ability taken away.”

    *Shrugs* If youre going to have rules, make sure everyone is aware of them before posting. That sounds like a novel idea!!

  64. Ana Lutetia says:

    I am curious: why in MundoSL latest post is Rahzinha being congratulated as a great designer… after she tells that she buys the designs from other content creators?

  65. Morph says:

    Because Minnu Palen set new standards, Ana.

  66. admin says:

    bwhahahahahaha

    @Ana : I’m thinking that Mundo and Rahzinha are good buddies, and so mundo will blog her regardless of what she does.

  67. Ana Lutetia says:

    *le sigh*

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