NeilLife: “Thanks, I feel kinda bad…”

neillife22Oh, hooray. Neil has seen the error of his ways! He FEELS BAD! Oh wait. No. He feels “kind of bad”. Well Neil, I feel “kind of bad” for the reputation you’re building yourself. I’d probably feel more bad if you didn’t appear to be such an obstinate manchild. The rest of Neil’s blog encourages folks to make alt accounts using fake email addresses, and that scripts can be cracked using a script he has promoted. Not sure if it includes use of NeilLife.

While Neil posts his halfhearted apology like a teenager who forgot to take the trash out, there are forums around posting things like this:

neillifeforum

“New NeilLife! Better than Cryolife!” “Second Life Proxy Tools!”

Neil also goes on to say:

Tip: this was supposed to be a backup viewer but it seems many people still abuse it. I been posting on several of my blog posts, I removed restrictions but man up and ask permissions before doing something illigal or nothing falls on me, I also included a tos.txt file in my viewers that requires them to follow it and nothing is my fault and I am not responsible for anything that happens. All tos violations does not go to the creator but it goes to the abuser if he violated it. Darling Brody made one of the top griefing tools in sl(quantum core), many people get banned by that, ever wonder why the creator isn’t getting blamed? But lots of people get banned for using the tool.

Tip: If you thought people weren’t going to abuse your viewer to the max, you’re either too optimistic or a moron.

Maybe you should all trot over to your2ndplace.com to read some theories on why content thieves do what they do.

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Comments

  1. Arlene says:

    Ooooh, putting that tos.txt file absolves him of ALL responsibility.

  2. He's a hero in many eyes.

  3. Hmm, I feel like I am reading a blog entry by the president of the NRA – "NeilLife isn't bad, its the people who use it who are bad."

  4. Kabalyero says:

    Does reputation in an anonymous world count? He can easily discard the name NEIL and come back as a new personality with a new name right? I think it will only count if you can tie up the name with a real life entity.

  5. Baily says:

    LMAO, all he’s doing is letting everyone know the bugs, so they can abuse them before LL changes them.

  6. Ann Otoole says:

    Go ahead Neil. Make millions of people as angry as can be possible at you. It is bound to work out one way in the long run. How interesting that Neil follows the same general behavioral pattern as Linden Lab rofl. Make everyone as angry as possible and assume all will forever be fluffy bunnies and kitty kats.

    • chris says:

      I am absolutely with Neil.I use his client to backup everything I bought so that I can easely recover all of my avatar appearance and clothes.Once you have been banned from SL for doing nothing, guilty for changing permission of objects in your inventory given away as freebies, like I noticed before, but in facts stolen content and once you lose hundreds of thousand lindens spent on stuff without any choice to recover them you notice the only truth:fight fire with fire and piss on TOS. To lindens there's no difference between 0 lindens accounts stealing stuff and people who spent to buy and actually are victims.So I decided to become a griefer,All Soft Linden can do is ban some 0 linden alt with whom people tried to rez neil's stuff.For all of you who's thinking second life is a better than real world life, Ive got a surprise…its worse.Lindens are just prisoners of their mafia's behaviour, I really hope someone can kick their asses for ever.peace!

      • BubbleGum says:

        The major hole in your "theory" here is that when you steal content, and especially pass stolen content, you are having a pretty terrible effect on the people creating the items, not Linden Lab. If your beef is with LL then do something to them, don't hurt the people who rely on sales to keep their stores active.

        • Chris says:

          As LLab stated themselves as Gods with every privilege, You know yourself theres nothing you can do with them but some kind of protest. Im sure Imn ot hitting just content creators but in an indirect way Im hitting LLab too, as far as their businness depends on them. In SL, like in RL, just money really counts and content creators can keep against them the right kind of pressing.They decided they will have to face their resident, guilty or not, strongly and directly and thats what they got and will ever get.I cant blame neil or the recently changing mind n3xi5 for making powerful client. Its all about knowledge, and its RL concerned. There are no tos here, just a constant and slow improvement and learning, made of faults and success.LLab only must learn from their errors and take their good lessons and for every one who can kick their asses, theres my personal thanks

  7. Mockba_the_Borg says:

    Folks, it's not Neil only. How many of you are using Greenlife? or worse, testclient or a proxy?
    It is easy to point fingers onto the guy because he is in evidence, but there are a lot of other tools which allow ripping wandering around, and no one is making a big deal out of it.

  8. skulls says:

    Neil is innocent? I loled. He’s so pathetic, i have no words. Make sure you read his eloquent responses over at his blog http://neillife-lol.blogspot.com/2009/10/i-have-pointed-out-i-am-literally-not.html http://neillife-lol.blogspot.com/2009/10/thank-you-httpshoppingcartdiscocomp5506.html where he claims he had nothing to do with it and promises new exploits in the same sentence. I’d guess most of the people here are using Emerald which is perfectly fine. Mocka is just repeating Neil-bullshit á la “Every client with backup features is a griefer client”, but you clowns forget a tiny detail: Emerald, Meerkat & Co. have PERMISSION CHECKS, you know, the stuff Neil commented out because he thinks it’s “not needed”. After all that’s what he calls programming, he takes other people’s sourcecode, removes the legit features and sells it to content thieves and griefers so they can abuse the hell out of it, he also doesn’t publish his sourcecode which is violating the General Public License and Linden Lab’s and Emerald’s copyright. Nope, I doubt anyone here is using testclient or a proxy. And yes i am pointing my finger at you, moron. Hope you will get your legal letters soon!

    • clara says:

      Didnt VLife created by jcool do the same ?? YES
      Doesnt Cryolife , HXO , PSL , ThugLyfe , Onyx ,Chocolatesl ,GodSL KoreLife and all those Private viewers have the same options ?? They are all the same !!!!!
      You keep talking BS because you might have some personal issues with neil or whatever .
      Its confirmed that these expliots have been around for 6 years now WHY ARE YOU NOT HAPPY THAT NEIL MADE IT PUBLIC atleast now you know whats been happening for years now .
      DID it hurt the economy for years ?? i dont think so !
      You guys want to make sl this Perfect place for me that says enough Your Realy stupid !the world isnt perfect so something like sl will be always far from that ,
      Another thing half of you morrons are thiefs in everday living Dont you have a Illegal copy of windows installed on your pc ?
      Dont you have illegaly downloaded music ,software or whatever on your pc ? Well thats a bigger crime than this BS .
      Please grow up stupid bunch of KIDS !!

  9. green says:

    the writer of this post is a twat! please straighten your facts before writing idiotic moronic things.

    • clara says:

      Yes agreed all my comments get removed because i said VLife SLchocolate ,PSL,HXO ,ThugLyfe viewers have been around for a long time .
      Im pretty sure the admin of this blog is using it them selfs why remove it ?Cuz your on one of those viewers your self You want to talk about the truth so dont remove my comment because its all true you FAKER

  10. Clara says:

    Im going to buy his private to. you morrons got innocent people banned i will forge creator on everything and spam the grid with free stuff all created on innocent peoples names just like what happend to my friends .
    !!!
    I hope everyone joins this war against over excited sl creators who charge way to much lindens for their creations !

    • what is your beef with SL creators?? If you think it is too expensive, then DON'T DESIRE it in the first place! Self control darling … look it up!

      • clara says:

        You need to go outside some more its people like you who think sl is real Please shut up !! get a life take care of your kids you will see that you wont have time for this kinda BS anymore .
        i dont giv 2 pices of shit about sl or linden labs

        • BubbleGum says:

          If you "don't give two shits" about SL why are you wasting your time posting on blogs and getting so upset and fighting "a war" against creators? Maybe YOU are the one who needs to get a reality check.

          P.S.- I have a job, a college degree, a happy marriage, and a healthy child. I log onto SL when all these things are tended to. And even with all of that I still care about the content creators and other SL residents because…guess what?…I care about people.

          • LOL BubbleGum

            Clara who has double standards for everyone else, clearly Clara suffers from an inferiority complex!!! What's a matter Clara, bit of a loser in rl (and sl)? hence the need to bring everyone down so you don't feel so bad being a failure? :D

  11. Margarine says:

    STOP SHOOTING THE MESSENGER…

    … you silly wheeping CRACK-HEADED MORE-ONS!!! First of all; Linden Lab's TOS is a BEHAVIOUR guide! And YUP(!), all of 'em who have 'illegal' assets in their inventory should and MUST BURN in hell; PERIOD! However… Backing up your OWN stuff is a MUST these days; Ever lost over a 10k(!) objects you paid a FORTUNE for, trying in last desperate attempt to file a LL ticket on wich they STANDARD respond with a 'IDK'?!? Done that, been there… Anyway, besides this…

    NO, Neil is NOT, repeat NOT guilty for PROVIDING information or even tools you AND tha Labs ALL seem to know about! Neil is just helping us by pointing us SEVERE and MAJOR security leak, going on now eversince SL was born! Well, he can't help tha Labs are so f* LAZY! Somehow they JUST WON'T/REFUSE to take action… Example:

    ——————————————————————————————
    Ever took a GOOD look at your 'AppData//SecondLife/cache'-folder? Yup, indead… UUID's! Besides the fact that everyone knows these files are actualy *.tga files without a header (Not too hard to crack since the're only a few sizes and formats!), all it takes is a fullperm YATO-BF NC texture-viewer, just copy/paste the filenames onto a NC inside the viewer… Voila, ILLEGAL ASSETS perfectly reproduced on a prim! Instead of taking the viewer back in your inventoy or delete it, just make it temp and the evidence vanishes wihtout a trace…
    ——————————————————————————————

    Look mommy… No strings…. ^x^ …! Just an LL official vewer (Are you guys ACTUALY using that crappy written RC-client?) and some… KNOWLEDGE! Hmm… What does TOS say? Unmodded client? *Check!* Used service PROVIDED AS IS? *Check!* Should I use/own/sell it…??? Ehh…, now THAT is IMMORAL/NAUGHTY/ABUSIVE! *Hell NO!!!* I've known this 'bug' my entire SLife (=6 f* YEARS) long… Yah RIGHT(!), they have solved some NC issues recently… What about the dozen OTHER gaping security holes?!? Nooo, let's force some MAJOR policy changes in order to create the 'perfect' COMMERCIAL production-grid… *Sighs*, or as Howard Linden stated "…There won't be any room for experience improvements (OR security fixes!) next YEAR…"!?? Did you realy believe SL2 viewer 2009 was comming 2009?!? Now exactly THIS should piss ANY of you off, and I strongly believe Neil feels the SAME! Neil and so MANY others tried it the easy-going way submitting JIRA posts for YEARS, and yah, hell… After YEARS it IS time for ACTION! Would you trust a MONEY-service operating like this?!? If you creators claim, that your SL work is an importand source of income, make sure your voice is heard at tha Labs, YOU'RE ALL paying these guys! Don't point towards Neil or others, at least this guy HAS a face, those who rip your stuff often DON'T!!! Go kick some Linden's BUDD instead for a change!

    Hey YOU wheeping POT-SMOKIN' HIPPIES, you always seem to forget… By using the internet you are inviting the STREET into your homes! Just make sure you got sufficient protection and DEMAND your service provider(s) to do the same! Or always stay the sad little wheeping one, bullied around with at a school's playground… I couldn't care less… It's a CRUEL world out there, … ^//^ …!

    >> Welcome in 2009… <<

    Marg's TOS: Everything I say… (yadayada, etc.) … If I or Neil for that matter am/are guilty for providing info such as described above, it's good to know that… (1) YOU are EQUALY guilty for READING=KNOWING these materials, are you going to (AB-)USE it now???… (2) There are HYPOCRITES among you wheeping folks, who are actualy trying as we speak!… (3) You can cry at the so called LL 'brown-bag' meetings on 3th. party client policy soon, just hope for the best… (4) A tool is a tool until it splits open someones SKULL, that would make it a MURDERWEAPON! Just don't blame the axx-manufacturer! Go after the real MURDERER instead! Make everyone wear a helmet, so EVERYONE is protected against any kinda blow! Ehhhh… (4) Nvm. statement #5 please… 'Couse I'm on XTC and I'm Dutch but…

    I have paid for EVERY SINGLE ITEM in my inventory YOUR, sometimes CRAZY prizes for YEARS and WILL continue to do so becouse i AM a FURIOUS selling creator myself, @HUN (in a SKIRT) !!! However… Glad my RLife does NOT depend on some silly BUGGY/UNSECURE internet GAME, it's just FUN! …And I prefere to keep it that way!

    Whoops, sorry… WRONG WINDOW… *Blush* …, Marg!

    • clara says:

      It seems to me you and Mockba are the only ones with brians .

      Like i said the ones that complain to much have they own group of thiefs and its friends only !

      Why does the admin remove my comments ? i bet you only want to hear negative about neil. FAKER

  12. Mockba_the_Borg says:

    Hey Skulls, do you know how to read? First of all it is MOCKBA not "mocka" … maybe you're drinking too muck coffee.
    Did you see me saying Neil is innocent? Did you see me calling anyone clown or moron? Did you see me insulting anyone on my post?
    Well … it is gratuitous flamers like who makes things like this happen. I bet you've had lots of fun already on this VIDEO GAME abusing noobs.
    If you want to have a nice and adult argument, let's have one.
    So here's a piece of advice: if you got this upset by someone touching you Second Life, then you should go out and get a First one, with a job maybe (I do have both, for you to know just in case, before you start flaming nonsense again).
    And about the legal letters? I got them allright. And I have them rolled here waiting for you to bend over. (continues on the next post)

  13. Mockba_the_Borg says:

    Skulls, this thing is a damn VIDEO GAME, and this is what happens with VIDEO GAMES. We've had the "aimbots" on doom and quake in the past (yes I am old), then we've had lots of cheat-stuff on other online platforms. We have similar stuff on WoW as well for a long time, so don't expect Second Life to be different. It will be ALWAYS the same.
    If you want the source code of my proxy, I'll give it to you, I don't care, it's written in C# anyway, so anyone can have it. And BTW you will see that it was written from scratch, not some retard "commented out" stuff.
    Just chill out and have fun, that will help a lot with your retention.
    Cheers,
    The Borg.
    PS.: The creations on SL are not expensive … they are in fact INEXPENSIVE. The only things expensive in SL are the ones which the money goes to LL. Have you guys thought about that already?

    • do you have a real life job?

      • Mockba_the_Borg says:

        Yup! I am supposed to right? lol.
        Otherwise, who's gonna feed the kids and fund the wife's shopping spree? Linden Labs? :P
        BTW: what happened to the other half of the post? one half is nothing without the other … lol

        • then it's nice to hear that you are a responsible husband who takes care of his kids and wife. Hear too many stories of useless husbands who do nothing all day except hang out and get drunk or stoned.

          • Mockba_the_Borg says:

            Yeah … or other ones that just play SL and lose their jobs for that … lol.
            Did you read the first half of my response to Skulls? I think it should be published… it was no more offensive than his.

          • Mockba_the_Borg says:

            Yeah … or other ones that just play SL and lose their jobs for that … lol.
            Did you read the first half of my response to Skulls? I think it should be published… it was no more offensive than his.

  14. Mockba_the_Borg says:

    Hey Skulls, do you know how to read? First of all it is MOCKBA not "mocka" … maybe you're drinking too muck coffee.
    Did you see me saying Neil is innocent? Did you see me calling anyone clown or moron? Did you see me insulting anyone on my post?
    Well … it is gratuitous flamers like who makes things like this happen. I bet you've had lots of fun already on this VIDEO GAME abusing noobs.
    If you want to have a nice and adult argument, let's have one.
    So here's a piece of advice: if you got this upset by someone touching you Second Life, then you should go out and get a First one, with a job maybe (I do have both, for you to know just in case, before you start flaming nonsense again).
    And about the legal letters? I got them allright. And I have them rolled here waiting for you to bend over.

  15. Mockba_the_Borg says:

    oops … I think I posted the other post twice. :P

  16. Mockba_the_Borg says:

    BTW … I dont think anyone is a hero for posting a backup viewer.

  17. Mockba_the_Borg says:

    Hey Skulls, do you know how to read? First of all it is MOCKBA not "mocka" … maybe you're drinking too muck coffee.
    Did you see me saying Neil is innocent? Did you see me calling anyone clown or moron? Did you see me insulting anyone on my post?
    Well … it is gratuitous flamers like who makes things like this happen. I bet you've had lots of fun already on this VIDEO GAME abusing noobs.
    If you want to have a nice and adult argument, let's have one.
    So here's a piece of advice: if you got this upset by someone touching you Second Life, then you should go out and get a First one, with a job maybe (I do have both, for you to know just in case, before you start flaming nonsense again).

  18. Mockba_the_Borg says:

    omg … all my attemps got posted at the same time … SORRY FOLKS!!! … this damn Explorer 8 was showing some message on the top, and I kept pressing Submit.. .Submit… Submit…

  19. Clara says:

    Ok now i had enough fucking assholes .
    Cryolife did everything neils viewer does why not bitch about cryolife !!
    jcool made Vlife same options NC injection etc where is jcool now ? in world fucking working with emerald .
    There are over 30 custom viewers out there for years now YOU guys have been stealing for a long time and now that everyone knows how to do it you get mad cuz your fun is over .
    50% of the emerald DEV are criminals who sold made viewers with all the same options to backup .No one is saying shit why ? your trying to protect your selfs fucking lying bastards ! i hope you all burn in HELL !!
    Expliots have been around for years thnx to neil we all heard about it STOP FUCKIG FAKING IT LOOSERS .
    The ones that complain the most are just Mad NC injection got patched thnx to neil !! Now you cant steal anymre like your used to for years .

    All you emerald DEVs saying shit should take a look in your very ow group Ya i said it half of you MTF sell custom viewers .
    Lets start about jcool he has a new viewer thats being sold for 50K L$ is anyone talking about it ??NOOO cuz your fucking friends that why This is so so Lame for pointing fingers at neil when hes just like you all BUT he made it public so it coud be patched while you guys kept it private why?? so you can continue stealing without trouble? YES I THINK SO.
    N3X15 is selling some expliot to why dont we talk about him for a while ???
    All you guys talking trash are a friends only group of thiefs !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  20. Mockba_the_Borg says:

    Way to go.

  21. Happy Resident says:

    Clara you are ignorant and clueless beyong imagination.
    1. emerald is free to download and the code is there, you can download it, modify it, use it.
    2. there are exploits wherever software is. i didn't see anyone distributing a credit card exploit manipulation software, simply cause they'd get in jail. Maybe he should have his butt dragged in a rl court to explain how and why out of the goodness of his heart he caused people losing their rl money when they had their investments stolen by his viewer. However choosing the safe "anonymous" way is more cool. Heh.
    3. Cryolife is obsolete and detectable. Neilllife is still under development and all users of it keep yaying happily on his blog "let's steal!, nice work" in his page.
    4. There is a thing called responsibility and respect. Look it up in a dictionary. People have to respect other people's properties, digital or material and the way they want to experience secondlife, without using illegal tools to steal them and make them feel they live in a ghetto where you can't even walk without being attacked.
    5. There's NOTHING you need in sl to survive. You can't afford an expensive item? Don't get it. That simple. You can't DEMAND people to spend hours and days out of their personal and business time, to create content of a sophisticated and high quality, using the training and experience they PAID for in rl (a thing called college) and aquired over years of practice (a thing called work) and give it to you for free. There are zillions of free options. Zillion of options where you have to pay. Go get the free ones and stop bitching about it. Or get a job and have some self respect and dignity and buy them like all of us do.
    6. What do you have to contribute besides your childish and rude bitching? Nothing. Learn to show respect 1st and learn a skill or 2 and then try insulting others for trying to protect their creations.
    7. Neil is just acting like a baby. He should have the balls to take responsibility for his actions like a man. And maybe use his skills and knowledge to help people instead of ripping them off. And maybe improve his english a little bit as well. Even a retard would understand that, except for him and you.
    8. I know none of this will go through your non-existant brain, but it felt good to get it out of my system. In RL there will always be 2 categories of people. The creative ones and the useful ones and the useless ones, who try to destroy everything in everyone's life cause of their bitterness. Pick a side.

    Sorry for the long reply

    • I like you Happy Resident! :)

      Well, the problem is that some people are losers in RL (and in SL) so they need to bring everyone else down so they don't feel so bad about being failures. They usually have a 'cause' to justify their reasons, but the real reason is that they are just jealous of what other people have that they don't want to work for out of laziness.

      Just look at Clara's writing, for example … they are too LAZY to even construct a proper sentence, let alone do a spell check.

      I'm getting fed up of all this entitlement in SL, especially by people who have done (or will do) anything to deserve it. It's like I used to know a guy at my work who bummed cigarettes off me on a daily basis, and one day I had enough, as I was fed up of funding his habit, and asked him why he didn't buy his own he replied that cigarettes were too expensive!

      Now as I see it, these freeloaders and thieves are parasites – Yes parasites in both real life and second life. They want the comfort without the price.

  22. Mockba_the_Borg says:

    I am seeing lots of forums around where people is complaining about content theft, and complaining that it is hurting the SL economy.
    Then, while sipping on my whisky, and smoking my cigar on the porch of my house in front of the lake, looking down at my brand new red 2010 camaro by the pool, I was wondering:
    How much can someone make out of SL these days?
    One dollar is about 260 lindens, so I was doing a quick calculation here:
    To pay the bills, pay the rent and feed the kids in real life, one should be making at least one million lindens month in Second Life. Is that possible? Is any of you willing to share your expereiences on this field? Any thoughts about this?

    • You like comparing yourself to others?

      Okay, you probably worked hard in real life and made a success of yourself, you live and enjoy the luxuries in your life like your whisky and cigar that you earned. Nobody is going to criticize you for that, because most decent people live and let live. I mean people of character and distinction don't really care about how other people live their lives, it's only dictators who start out in life with inferiority complexes that want to rule and tell others how to live – you know like Hitler, he was only happy when he could dictate other people's lives for them.

      • Mockba_the_Borg says:

        C'mon … did you really believe the Cigar/Whiskey/Pool/Camaro thing?
        I just painted a nice "stereotype scene".
        I work my ass out to make some shitty money… unfortunately. (not to make my buns firm)
        But that was in fact a honest question… because I know some guys who came to me all proud that they were doing like 10 thousand lindens a month … OMG, that's, I dont know, 40 dollars? this is not paying for their electricity. So one of the things I still didn't figure out on SL is if there's still any "economy" left.

  23. Mockba_the_Borg says:

    It is funny to watch people here saying things basically like "you should learn to respect each other, you bitch"… .or "grow up and learn to be a man, you retard"…. you guys are soo funny… I am having the funniest days of my life wandering on your forums.

  24. Mockba_the_Borg says:

    It is just like saying to your kid: "stop saying bad words you stupid son of a bitch … if you say a bad word again I'll whip you sorry ass you dumb shit" … LOL … hilarious.

    • Happy Resident says:

      Starting with "honorable white trash" would be hilarious actually, don't think i wasn't tempted to do it. lol

      Starting with "dearest and lovely thief's supporter who can't type something that makes sense" would be kinda weird too.

      I do deserve credit for skipping F and C words though, lol. I tend to reserve my respect for people who deserve it and i did type that thingy out as decent as possible. :)

      And to answer your question, yes, it is possible to make a rl living out of it. Hence the bitterness from people who get caught stealing (cause they don't get the chance to make some profit out of other people's work). And if i may correct you, it's an interactive 3D CHAT software, not a 3D game. :)

  25. I'm getting fed up of all this entitlement in SL, especially by people who have not done anything to deserve it. It's like I used to know a guy at my work who bummed cigarettes off me on a daily basis, and one day I had enough, as I was fed up of funding his habit, and asked him why he didn't buy his own – he replied that cigarettes were too expensive!

    This is the same in SL. There are people who LOVE SL because of all the beautiful creations, but they HATE to pay. Because of this, they BLAME the creators for charging them money, instead of blaming themselves for being too LAZY to get a BETTER paying job in real life to pay for their SL pleasures!

    Their logic becomes twisted and in their minds the creators are the evil ones! So it is a dangerous concoction of entitlement, envy and desire that create SL's thieving parasites.

    These people are parasites in both their RL and SL. People who don't pull their own weight to contribute to society, but instead are about THEMSELVES and nobody else.

  26. Chris says:

    I absolutely agree with last Man_In_A_Skirt post.I also like Mokba's posts a lot.I just would like Neil not to be considered as the Guilty one. Better, nor guilty at all. He claimed several times he just took possibilities from open source code distributed by Lindens themselves and coded to make a viewer. So Lindens are liable for what they put on the net themselves. What Neil did is just coding these possibilities so that they could be accessible to a larger amount of people, being part of a modded client and provided with a graphical interface. Llab should know that, so they asked to limit the use of thier source code as a ther of use of that stuff. Same thing did Neil, putting a TOS text file inside his viewer folder. So what's the difference between his behaviour and LLab behaviour? Why should I blame him and not Llab?

  27. Happy Resident says:

    Well it all goes down to one thing after all.
    Noone is responsible but LL, who gave out their code as open source.
    And in my opinion it's a huge mistake to mix open source platforms with RL credit card systems. Looks like people are not responsible enough to handle the freedom they got and the best solution to end this is to leave the open source projects for kids who wanna play, and use a closed more secure platform with restricted options to ensure everyone privacy and content security.
    I don't wanna be around when someone discovers a hole in the L$ balance and CC system and they decide (out of the kindness of their heart) to share this exploit with everyone to "help LL fix their code".
    So yeah, end 3rd party viewers and get on with all this drama already. And if anyone wants to create something, let him build his own software and his own world from scratch (instead of using 99% LL code and bitch about it) and then be proud about it. :) Just my 2 L$.

    • BubbleGum says:

      I agree with you about ending the third party viewers for sure. Sorry folks, but you jiggly boobies and pretty particle effects are just not important enough to sacrifice great designers and personal security.

  28. Mockba_the_Borg says:

    Yeah Happy … as I said before … the only resonable solution I see is a closed source viewer running over an encrypted data stream.
    That would reduce (not eliminate) the chances of content theft, and also bring more privacy to the system.
    We will still have problems, like people getting banned when someone cries "WOLF!" … but that is another story.

  29. lulz says:

    Yes lets all blame LL and their modded viewers. Screw jiggly boobs.

    cryogenic blitz made cryolife/emerald. jcool410 made vlife/onyx/phoxsl/emerald. Ever wondering why hackers work one emerald? I do not. But people do not give a fuck.

  30. Mockba_the_Borg says:

    Well … we (finally?) got to the point where everyone is defending firmly their positions, the occasional posters are not daring to touch the fire, and everyone have an answer for everything the other says.
    This usually means that this discussion is not going anywhere anymore (as it didn't in the last N years).
    So I suggest we go create "entropy" on another thread, so we can continue to have fun.

  31. I like jiggly boobs, its the only thing that makes me feel like a real woman and helps me forget about that snake that dangles between my legs in rl.

  32. Mockba_the_Borg says:

    Jiggly boobs is cool … we finally agreed on something … lol.

  33. Linda says:

    I agree with the comments that Tenshi Vielle needs to get out more and stop hating on Neil. Viewers with the same options have been made by other people, but oh no, she only mentions neil. I have seen people victimised many times in her blogs, it’s about time she stopped, did more research or just turned off her computer and got into the real world. Oh and put that KFC bucket down fatty :)

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