Comments on: Content Theft Stops At Home http://shoppingcartdisco.com/gossip/content-theft-stops-at-home/ Second Life's #1 Fashion and Gossip Rag Wed, 08 Feb 2012 09:58:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Ziek http://shoppingcartdisco.com/gossip/content-theft-stops-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-46506 Ziek Thu, 14 Jan 2010 04:41:56 +0000 http://shoppingcartdisco.com/?p=4935#comment-46506 "Not only that, but HE is really a SHE. Everything he does is a fake, lie, and a scam." This is horribly sexist and offensive- and didn't need to be said. Many people play SL opposite to their gender, and this doesn't make them liars or scammers. Sometimes people don't feel comfortable with telling others about their real lives. There may have been things he's done that I don't agree with... but HE is a HE, if that is what he feels that he is inside. You can talk about what he's done wrong that's fine, but being transgendered is not wrong. “Not only that, but HE is really a SHE.
Everything he does is a fake, lie, and a scam.”

This is horribly sexist and offensive-
and didn’t need to be said.
Many people play SL opposite to their gender, and this doesn’t make them liars or scammers.
Sometimes people don’t feel comfortable with telling others about their real lives.

There may have been things he’s done that I don’t agree with… but HE is a HE, if that is what he feels that he is inside.

You can talk about what he’s done wrong that’s fine, but being transgendered is not wrong.

]]> By: Ziek http://shoppingcartdisco.com/gossip/content-theft-stops-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-46505 Ziek Thu, 14 Jan 2010 04:10:33 +0000 http://shoppingcartdisco.com/?p=4935#comment-46505 Wow, really? MOST of the rumors about content theft? I mean I know thats all you guys ever talk about here, but when I heard rumors they weren't about content theft. This is sort of surprising, but I'm releived that I've read this and didn't see a picture of some horrible alt-shop. Wow, really? MOST of the rumors about content theft?
I mean I know thats all you guys ever talk about here, but when I heard rumors they weren’t about content theft.
This is sort of surprising, but I’m releived that I’ve read this and didn’t see a picture of some horrible alt-shop.

]]> By: Someonewhoknows http://shoppingcartdisco.com/gossip/content-theft-stops-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-42338 Someonewhoknows Sat, 10 Oct 2009 23:08:48 +0000 http://shoppingcartdisco.com/?p=4935#comment-42338 Not only that, but HE is really a SHE. Everything he does is a fake, lie, and a scam. I got a copy of the ripped hair and was involved in this during the begging, people didnt believe he would actually do something like this because he was so well known with developers. Not only that, but HE is really a SHE.
Everything he does is a fake, lie, and a scam.
I got a copy of the ripped hair and was involved in this during the begging,
people didnt believe he would actually do something like this because he was so well known with developers.

]]> By: Emailing a DMCA Notice to Linden Lab | PlagiarismToday http://shoppingcartdisco.com/gossip/content-theft-stops-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-42172 Emailing a DMCA Notice to Linden Lab | PlagiarismToday Tue, 06 Oct 2009 18:43:38 +0000 http://shoppingcartdisco.com/?p=4935#comment-42172 [...] controversial takedown regimes I know of. Not only has the content theft issues on Second Life been receiving a lot of in-world attention, thus putting the company’s DMCA policy under close scrutiny, but the company also seems to [...] [...] controversial takedown regimes I know of. Not only has the content theft issues on Second Life been receiving a lot of in-world attention, thus putting the company’s DMCA policy under close scrutiny, but the company also seems to [...]

]]> By: Nara Tairov (Naive so-and-so) http://shoppingcartdisco.com/gossip/content-theft-stops-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-42149 Nara Tairov (Naive so-and-so) Tue, 06 Oct 2009 09:35:05 +0000 http://shoppingcartdisco.com/?p=4935#comment-42149 Now this is weird! When I do a commision I name it with it's own individual name, rather than "Person's Commision." And the Francois Ghost one was called. "Sinners-Flesh" I should mention this was done without any knowledge about any rumours. (I'm horrible at keeping in any loop about anything personally.) Fitting image. >.< http://www.flickr.com/photos/turquoiseunicorn/3820913121/in/set-72157619674524127/ Now this is weird! When I do a commision I name it with it’s own individual name, rather than “Person’s Commision.” And the Francois Ghost one was called. “Sinners-Flesh” I should mention this was done without any knowledge about any rumours. (I’m horrible at keeping in any loop about anything personally.)

Fitting image. >.<

http://www.flickr.com/photos/turquoiseunicorn/3820913121/in/set-72157619674524127/

]]> By: Nara Tairov (Naive so-and-so) http://shoppingcartdisco.com/gossip/content-theft-stops-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-42148 Nara Tairov (Naive so-and-so) Tue, 06 Oct 2009 09:05:11 +0000 http://shoppingcartdisco.com/?p=4935#comment-42148 I was (and still am) blown away to hear all this..... I knew him from someone else, who paid me to do a commision of him, for him. (He apparently couldn't pay for himself..? :/) He was even on my friends list. From how my aquaintance treated him I figured he was great guy. And even when they had a falling out I wasn't told about his detestable habits or attitude. Why? I have no clue. Because honestly to me he isn't worth keeping one's mouth shut about theft,no one is. No matter if they have so called "famous" driping off them like water. I still think it should be treated the same as if some unknown noob with nothing but an Xstreet store was ripping things. Thankfully I never got to get to know him well at all. And other than haveing a picture of him in my Flikr I figure I got off fairly unscathed by any of his seemingly radiateing bad aura. I was (and still am) blown away to hear all this….. I knew him from someone else, who paid me to do a commision of him, for him. (He apparently couldn’t pay for himself..? :/) He was even on my friends list.
From how my aquaintance treated him I figured he was great guy. And even when they had a falling out I wasn’t told about his detestable habits or attitude. Why? I have no clue. Because honestly to me he isn’t worth keeping one’s mouth shut about theft,no one is. No matter if they have so called “famous” driping off them like water. I still think it should be treated the same as if some unknown noob with nothing but an Xstreet store was ripping things.
Thankfully I never got to get to know him well at all. And other than haveing a picture of him in my Flikr I figure I got off fairly unscathed by any of his seemingly radiateing bad aura.

]]> By: Eff Mons http://shoppingcartdisco.com/gossip/content-theft-stops-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-41944 Eff Mons Fri, 02 Oct 2009 11:13:08 +0000 http://shoppingcartdisco.com/?p=4935#comment-41944 What a cheap way of attempting to cover the ass of someone who has stolen content and bragged about it. You can try to overt attention from the meat of the matter all you like with this catty gossip, but it really accomplishes nothing, save making you look like a bitch. What a cheap way of attempting to cover the ass of someone who has stolen content and bragged about it. You can try to overt attention from the meat of the matter all you like with this catty gossip, but it really accomplishes nothing, save making you look like a bitch.

]]> By: On The Other Side http://shoppingcartdisco.com/gossip/content-theft-stops-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-41846 On The Other Side Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:49:27 +0000 http://shoppingcartdisco.com/?p=4935#comment-41846 For along time, i have said it time and again, Francois has never been my friend and he deserves what he got. He lied and continuously lied about who he was. This doesnt surprise me, and i feel sorry that it had to come down to this. I am surprised so many people didn't see this sooner. Ever since i met him, he's lied, and literally ruined my friendships with other people and my personal reputation. I think linden labs should of taken care of him for 1. lying about his age. But more importantly for content theft. This is sad, kid needs a good kick in the ass and needs to get out of second life. For along time, i have said it time and again, Francois has never been my friend and he deserves what he got. He lied and continuously lied about who he was. This doesnt surprise me, and i feel sorry that it had to come down to this. I am surprised so many people didn't see this sooner. Ever since i met him, he's lied, and literally ruined my friendships with other people and my personal reputation. I think linden labs should of taken care of him for 1. lying about his age. But more importantly for content theft. This is sad, kid needs a good kick in the ass and needs to get out of second life.

]]> By: yup you got played http://shoppingcartdisco.com/gossip/content-theft-stops-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-41831 yup you got played Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:34:16 +0000 http://shoppingcartdisco.com/?p=4935#comment-41831 In reading this blog and its replies, it's pretty sad to know that he had friends that knew what he was doing and didn't do anything about it to stop him. They just went on their merry little ways, basically letting him know he could get away with what he wanted to do. His game was gaining peoples trust enough and vying for sympathy so that he could be a thief without anyone turning on him. He won his game and will probably move on to the next. He held the cards and his friends got played. I sure hope a lesson was learned here. It makes me cringe knowing that to his friends, it was a-ok to steal from others as long as it wasn't from them. Remember, Karma is a bitch and what goes around comes around. They may not be so lucky the next time. Yet how are they so sure they didn't get stolen from as well? Maybe it will keep them all up at night wondering, and I hope it does so that the next time they run across someone like this, they do the right thing. In reading this blog and its replies, it's pretty sad to know that he had friends that knew what he was doing and didn't do anything about it to stop him. They just went on their merry little ways, basically letting him know he could get away with what he wanted to do. His game was gaining peoples trust enough and vying for sympathy so that he could be a thief without anyone turning on him. He won his game and will probably move on to the next. He held the cards and his friends got played.

I sure hope a lesson was learned here. It makes me cringe knowing that to his friends, it was a-ok to steal from others as long as it wasn't from them. Remember, Karma is a bitch and what goes around comes around. They may not be so lucky the next time. Yet how are they so sure they didn't get stolen from as well? Maybe it will keep them all up at night wondering, and I hope it does so that the next time they run across someone like this, they do the right thing.

]]> By: 3blahs1whatever http://shoppingcartdisco.com/gossip/content-theft-stops-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-41826 3blahs1whatever Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:20:28 +0000 http://shoppingcartdisco.com/?p=4935#comment-41826 You do realize the "powerful celebrity friends" youre referring to are a group of people who have exalted themselves up amongst their little group of friends and fed their self-made "popularity" to anybody (you) who would listen and believe it? Like I said before, works the same was as a group of "cool" high school students in a small town. Word of advice, they do not matter and they are only known to very little people, the rest of the world doesnt care. Be friends with who will be friends with you, not people who listen to watered down comments regarding you. I feel sorry for you though, I totally feel you on "I was never able to have a potential non bias relationship with other designers associated with him". For me, NOT having content creator friends is the best thing ive ever done for myself. Too many people putting on fake faces trying to "be somebody". One of the neatest people I am friends with in SL is an individual who looks completely noob, has no idea any of this (whats going on here) exists, and wouldnt be interested to know. But you know, what boggles my mind is all of the people who still pardon what fran is doing. I am not someone who wants to see people kicked to a corner and disregarded, people can love fran but at least freakin speak out against what hes doing and tell him go away until he has changed (And until he turns 18, whenever that really is). Kind of like that story of the prodigal son. Oh and I just wanted to add something in general regarding purchased skins intended to remain on the SL client: Ripping a skin onto ones hard drive, loading it into photoshop, adding "eyeshadow", loading it back into SL and wearing it... Is a no no. Just sayin. You do realize the "powerful celebrity friends" youre referring to are a group of people who have exalted themselves up amongst their little group of friends and fed their self-made "popularity" to anybody (you) who would listen and believe it? Like I said before, works the same was as a group of "cool" high school students in a small town. Word of advice, they do not matter and they are only known to very little people, the rest of the world doesnt care. Be friends with who will be friends with you, not people who listen to watered down comments regarding you. I feel sorry for you though, I totally feel you on "I was never able to have a potential non bias relationship with other designers associated with him". For me, NOT having content creator friends is the best thing ive ever done for myself. Too many people putting on fake faces trying to "be somebody". One of the neatest people I am friends with in SL is an individual who looks completely noob, has no idea any of this (whats going on here) exists, and wouldnt be interested to know.

But you know, what boggles my mind is all of the people who still pardon what fran is doing. I am not someone who wants to see people kicked to a corner and disregarded, people can love fran but at least freakin speak out against what hes doing and tell him go away until he has changed (And until he turns 18, whenever that really is). Kind of like that story of the prodigal son.

Oh and I just wanted to add something in general regarding purchased skins intended to remain on the SL client: Ripping a skin onto ones hard drive, loading it into photoshop, adding "eyeshadow", loading it back into SL and wearing it… Is a no no. Just sayin.

]]> By: Hair Designer http://shoppingcartdisco.com/gossip/content-theft-stops-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-41823 Hair Designer Wed, 30 Sep 2009 10:20:34 +0000 http://shoppingcartdisco.com/?p=4935#comment-41823 Thank you so much Tenshi for finally blowing this kid out. I've been battling him for years and have lost creative friends because of him. They pushed me away because of his manipulative actions and because of the things he has spread about me, I was never able to have a potential non bias relationship with other designers associated with him. I've been striving to educate others on Fran/ Krez; how he is an underage child who fed off the sympathy of others. However, I was actually shunned by the most "posh" in the fashion community and basically almost lost my reputation as a designer because of this kid. I'm just so happy that he can no longer hide behind a name, statues, and his "powerful" celebrity friends. Thanks again! The Nameless Hair Designer (yes, the one metioned) Thank you so much Tenshi for finally blowing this kid out. I've been battling him for years and have lost creative friends because of him. They pushed me away because of his manipulative actions and because of the things he has spread about me, I was never able to have a potential non bias relationship with other designers associated with him. I've been striving to educate others on Fran/ Krez; how he is an underage child who fed off the sympathy of others. However, I was actually shunned by the most "posh" in the fashion community and basically almost lost my reputation as a designer because of this kid. I'm just so happy that he can no longer hide behind a name, statues, and his "powerful" celebrity friends.

Thanks again!
The Nameless Hair Designer (yes, the one metioned)

]]> By: Riot Core http://shoppingcartdisco.com/gossip/content-theft-stops-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-41802 Riot Core Wed, 30 Sep 2009 06:01:35 +0000 http://shoppingcartdisco.com/?p=4935#comment-41802 Lolol. Lolol.

]]> By: ... http://shoppingcartdisco.com/gossip/content-theft-stops-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-41779 ... Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:46:02 +0000 http://shoppingcartdisco.com/?p=4935#comment-41779 Baily you reek of being immature. Baily you reek of being immature.

]]> By: 3blahs1whatever http://shoppingcartdisco.com/gossip/content-theft-stops-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-41778 3blahs1whatever Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:17:25 +0000 http://shoppingcartdisco.com/?p=4935#comment-41778 Wow youre scary Baily. Wow youre scary Baily.

]]> By: Vaughan Vendetta http://shoppingcartdisco.com/gossip/content-theft-stops-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-41776 Vaughan Vendetta Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:44:32 +0000 http://shoppingcartdisco.com/?p=4935#comment-41776 Oh - And I'll be happy to give him a smack on behalf of everyone he's played when he hits the TG. LOL. ~V. Oh – And I'll be happy to give him a smack on behalf of everyone he's played when he hits the TG. LOL.

~V.

]]> By: Vaughan Vendetta http://shoppingcartdisco.com/gossip/content-theft-stops-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-41775 Vaughan Vendetta Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:43:25 +0000 http://shoppingcartdisco.com/?p=4935#comment-41775 Is anyone REALLY surprised about this? I've always figured that Francois was either underage, supremely retarded, or just an average jackass. His double-faced involvement in copybot is less-than-shocking. He's such a jew. Oh wait... :] ~V. Is anyone REALLY surprised about this? I've always figured that Francois was either underage, supremely retarded, or just an average jackass. His double-faced involvement in copybot is less-than-shocking.

He's such a jew. Oh wait… :]

~V.

]]> By: theodorenacht http://shoppingcartdisco.com/gossip/content-theft-stops-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-41774 theodorenacht Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:35:12 +0000 http://shoppingcartdisco.com/?p=4935#comment-41774 Well said, Heidi. Well said, Heidi.

]]> By: Baily http://shoppingcartdisco.com/gossip/content-theft-stops-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-41773 Baily Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:58:21 +0000 http://shoppingcartdisco.com/?p=4935#comment-41773 I am there for my friends, if they need advice I’ll give it to them, if they need to pull their head in I’ll tell them. If they murdered someone, I’d wanna know what pushed them over the edge.....I would not hand them in! I’m sorry if you judge your friends or if you’d dob them in, I wouldn't and that's just me. I am there for my friends, if they need advice I’ll give it to them, if they need to pull their head in I’ll tell them. If they murdered someone, I’d wanna know what pushed them over the edge…..I would not hand them in! I’m sorry if you judge your friends or if you’d dob them in, I wouldn’t and that’s just me.

]]> By: Baily http://shoppingcartdisco.com/gossip/content-theft-stops-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-41772 Baily Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:53:56 +0000 http://shoppingcartdisco.com/?p=4935#comment-41772 That's pretty much it, yup. Oh and that he's apparently a celebrity, so before the cat got out to the general public it was cool to be his friend. But now that everyone knows, it's not cool anymore. That’s pretty much it, yup. Oh and that he’s apparently a celebrity, so before the cat got out to the general public it was cool to be his friend. But now that everyone knows, it’s not cool anymore.

]]> By: Heidi Halberstadt http://shoppingcartdisco.com/gossip/content-theft-stops-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-41762 Heidi Halberstadt Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:28:06 +0000 http://shoppingcartdisco.com/?p=4935#comment-41762 @ Baily: You have a bit of growing up to do, I think. Your friends need your judgment, because you would able to see their actions being destructive to themselves and others. And since you're their friend, you'll be the only one able to try and help them with love and their best interest at heart. I'm glad I am not your RL friend, because I rely on MINE to set me straight when I am being an ass and can't see it. And I am sorry, if I knew one of my friends committed murder, I'd be turning them in. Imagine your sister/lover/mother got killed and the killer went free because their "friends" kept silent out of misguided loyalty. Bet you'd see it differently then. @ Baily: You have a bit of growing up to do, I think. Your friends need your judgment, because you would able to see their actions being destructive to themselves and others. And since you're their friend, you'll be the only one able to try and help them with love and their best interest at heart. I'm glad I am not your RL friend, because I rely on MINE to set me straight when I am being an ass and can't see it.

And I am sorry, if I knew one of my friends committed murder, I'd be turning them in. Imagine your sister/lover/mother got killed and the killer went free because their "friends" kept silent out of misguided loyalty. Bet you'd see it differently then.

]]> By: Heidi Halberstadt http://shoppingcartdisco.com/gossip/content-theft-stops-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-41763 Heidi Halberstadt Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:28:06 +0000 http://shoppingcartdisco.com/?p=4935#comment-41763 @ Baily: You have a bit of growing up to do, I think. Your friends need your judgment, because you would able to see their actions being destructive to themselves and others. And since you're their friend, you'll be the only one able to try and help them with love and their best interest at heart. I'm glad I am not your RL friend, because I rely on MINE to set me straight when I am being an ass and can't see it. And I am sorry, if I knew one of my friends committed murder, I'd be turning them in. Imagine your sister/lover/mother got killed and the killer went free because their "friends" kept silent out of misguided loyalty. Bet you'd see it differently then. @ Baily: You have a bit of growing up to do, I think. Your friends need your judgment, because you would able to see their actions being destructive to themselves and others. And since you're their friend, you'll be the only one able to try and help them with love and their best interest at heart. I'm glad I am not your RL friend, because I rely on MINE to set me straight when I am being an ass and can't see it.

And I am sorry, if I knew one of my friends committed murder, I'd be turning them in. Imagine your sister/lover/mother got killed and the killer went free because their "friends" kept silent out of misguided loyalty. Bet you'd see it differently then.

]]> By: 3blahs1whatever http://shoppingcartdisco.com/gossip/content-theft-stops-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-41752 3blahs1whatever Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:03:01 +0000 http://shoppingcartdisco.com/?p=4935#comment-41752 Um did any of you guys tell him to stop what he was doing though in terms of his thievery? The very few few rare times a "friend" of mine may have been botting things I gave them a piece of my mind on it, and i wasnt nice. Did you guys ever even tell Krez to knock it the fuck off? These arent questions I expect you to answer outloud, or even answer at all, its out of the bag now. Its just things that go through my mind upon reading the post. (Not questions to you personally :) ) Krez admitted to being underage, and since he is his parents responsibility I believe he needs to knock off the shit he keeps pulling. I have nothing personal against Krez, but if (s)he REALLY wants to live as a man in RL he needs someone to set him straight and he needs to man up. Pulling catty crybaby moves like ripping peoples stuff then taunting them and spreading it around is ridiculous and shows a severe lack of integrity. Anonymous here or not, whenever he is brought up around me in world I say what I need to say, I take no sides. I take content theft VERY seriously. Um did any of you guys tell him to stop what he was doing though in terms of his thievery? The very few few rare times a "friend" of mine may have been botting things I gave them a piece of my mind on it, and i wasnt nice.

Did you guys ever even tell Krez to knock it the fuck off?

These arent questions I expect you to answer outloud, or even answer at all, its out of the bag now. Its just things that go through my mind upon reading the post. (Not questions to you personally :) )

Krez admitted to being underage, and since he is his parents responsibility I believe he needs to knock off the shit he keeps pulling.

I have nothing personal against Krez, but if (s)he REALLY wants to live as a man in RL he needs someone to set him straight and he needs to man up. Pulling catty crybaby moves like ripping peoples stuff then taunting them and spreading it around is ridiculous and shows a severe lack of integrity.

Anonymous here or not, whenever he is brought up around me in world I say what I need to say, I take no sides. I take content theft VERY seriously.

]]> By: Business-in-your-box http://shoppingcartdisco.com/gossip/content-theft-stops-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-41755 Business-in-your-box Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:38:16 +0000 http://shoppingcartdisco.com/?p=4935#comment-41755 so lemme get this right.. theres this kid who is 17, passes around ripped and stolen items to his friends in SL, most of whom are middle-aged old women, and now the proverbial cat is out of the bag, all his friends are denying any connection they had with him? so lemme get this right..
theres this kid who is 17, passes around ripped and stolen items to his friends in SL, most of whom are middle-aged old women, and now the proverbial cat is out of the bag, all his friends are denying any connection they had with him?

]]> By: Baily http://shoppingcartdisco.com/gossip/content-theft-stops-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-41751 Baily Tue, 29 Sep 2009 06:55:07 +0000 http://shoppingcartdisco.com/?p=4935#comment-41751 I accept my friends for who they are, I respect them, I am loyal to them and I do not judge them, end off I accept my friends for who they are, I respect them, I am loyal to them and I do not judge them, end off

]]> By: hazel baily http://shoppingcartdisco.com/gossip/content-theft-stops-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-41750 hazel baily Tue, 29 Sep 2009 06:52:11 +0000 http://shoppingcartdisco.com/?p=4935#comment-41750 personally I don't believe in SL friendships, not really. I have known my best friend for yrs in RL. I don't believe you can truly know someone you have never actually met personally I don’t believe in SL friendships, not really. I have known my best friend for yrs in RL. I don’t believe you can truly know someone you have never actually met

]]> By: Polero http://shoppingcartdisco.com/gossip/content-theft-stops-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-41749 Polero Tue, 29 Sep 2009 06:23:15 +0000 http://shoppingcartdisco.com/?p=4935#comment-41749 I've never heard of this guy. FFS are people really turning a blind eye to underagers and thieves because of an online 'friendship'? Baily are you serious? Of course we judge people, everybody judges people (including their friends) - on their behaviour, on their reputation, their morality, their empathy, their kindness,on their integrity and even their appearance. That's why we choose some people as friends and reject others. Without judgement, there are no values. If you have no judgement you may well end up with friends who go out and murder 10 people! I've never heard of this guy. FFS are people really turning a blind eye to underagers and thieves because of an online 'friendship'?

Baily are you serious? Of course we judge people, everybody judges people (including their friends) – on their behaviour, on their reputation, their morality, their empathy, their kindness,on their integrity and even their appearance. That's why we choose some people as friends and reject others. Without judgement, there are no values. If you have no judgement you may well end up with friends who go out and murder 10 people!

]]> By: sadsl;k http://shoppingcartdisco.com/gossip/content-theft-stops-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-41747 sadsl;k Tue, 29 Sep 2009 04:49:12 +0000 http://shoppingcartdisco.com/?p=4935#comment-41747 I personally didn't know he was passing them. I did know he did rip skins for his personal use. I heard the same rumor tenshi did about him copybotting hair. When he did that I asked him as a friend and he denied it. As far as it goes, blahblah. We were all conned. Some say they know he did it, but others may have not... so you shouldn't group certain people nor make this a matter of sl status because it has nothing to do with that. Also did you ever put into consideration that no one had enough proof. It's all coming out in the open now because you're right about one thing. No one cares to hurt him anymore or taint his name. Krez/Fran is a horrible person and this isn't right. Now that more voices are speaking up about the issuse we can gather more evidence to our speculation/rumor/actualscamming. I do agree with you about one thing. Krez is a minor. I'm amazed he's here. I've banned him from all my locations because he hit close to home one time and I really dont need his childish acts against me. I personally didn't know he was passing them. I did know he did rip skins for his personal use. I heard the same rumor tenshi did about him copybotting hair. When he did that I asked him as a friend and he denied it. As far as it goes, blahblah. We were all conned. Some say they know he did it, but others may have not… so you shouldn't group certain people nor make this a matter of sl status because it has nothing to do with that. Also did you ever put into consideration that no one had enough proof. It's all coming out in the open now because you're right about one thing. No one cares to hurt him anymore or taint his name. Krez/Fran is a horrible person and this isn't right. Now that more voices are speaking up about the issuse we can gather more evidence to our speculation/rumor/actualscamming.

I do agree with you about one thing. Krez is a minor. I'm amazed he's here. I've banned him from all my locations because he hit close to home one time and I really dont need his childish acts against me.

]]> By: EmleighWestland http://shoppingcartdisco.com/gossip/content-theft-stops-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-41746 EmleighWestland Tue, 29 Sep 2009 04:24:41 +0000 http://shoppingcartdisco.com/?p=4935#comment-41746 First of all. I'm not a middle aged woman. I happen to be only a few years older than the accused. And I'm the one who called him out to begin with on an entirely different issue and it's skyrocketed from there. As for my "maturity level", at least I'm mature enough to own up to my wrongs, and own my opinion and thoughts on this. Something you don't seem to be able to do publicly. First of all. I'm not a middle aged woman. I happen to be only a few years older than the accused.

And I'm the one who called him out to begin with on an entirely different issue and it's skyrocketed from there.

As for my "maturity level", at least I'm mature enough to own up to my wrongs, and own my opinion and thoughts on this. Something you don't seem to be able to do publicly.

]]> By: EmleighWestland http://shoppingcartdisco.com/gossip/content-theft-stops-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-41744 EmleighWestland Tue, 29 Sep 2009 04:04:02 +0000 http://shoppingcartdisco.com/?p=4935#comment-41744 We're not friends. I, like the majority of his former friends, are sick of his lies. I've stood up for him for far too long. I've defended him. I've fought his battles for him. I'm done defending a liar, and a manipulator. Like I said, friendship ends, horror stories come out. We're not friends. I, like the majority of his former friends, are sick of his lies. I've stood up for him for far too long. I've defended him. I've fought his battles for him. I'm done defending a liar, and a manipulator.

Like I said, friendship ends, horror stories come out.

]]> By: Vivi http://shoppingcartdisco.com/gossip/content-theft-stops-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-41742 Vivi Tue, 29 Sep 2009 03:23:28 +0000 http://shoppingcartdisco.com/?p=4935#comment-41742 Do you also talk about how much you hate your friend behind his back? Would you stand behind your friend or talk shit on him publicly once he murdered 10 people? Here now is where you see the difference between how you think of friendship and what these people consider friendship. Do you also talk about how much you hate your friend behind his back? Would you stand behind your friend or talk shit on him publicly once he murdered 10 people? Here now is where you see the difference between how you think of friendship and what these people consider friendship.

]]> By: Vivi http://shoppingcartdisco.com/gossip/content-theft-stops-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-41741 Vivi Tue, 29 Sep 2009 03:19:32 +0000 http://shoppingcartdisco.com/?p=4935#comment-41741 Even if i did have chatlogs it's against tos to share them :). I do hope yall did have fun either having sex or watching sex acts with someone whom you knew was underrage or at least heard "rumors" he was underrage. At least you all got some giggles though from it though huh? "Who wants to intentionally hurt their friends?" As adult women you shouldn't call young boys your friends, especially ones you know are up to no good. This shows you have no common sense...disagree? Emleigh has said multiple things in in this post about how bad he is...who considers someone a friend who they don't like anything about and knows this person is garbage? Who calls someone a friend that you let walk all over you? BRAINS LADIES BRAINS!! You are grown women, not teens. So, congratulations on being stomped on by a little boy pretending to be gay. I have nothing against any of you, but I find it sickening that you ONLY end this "friendship" after he gets called out for something that effects you all. Hopefully this was a wakeup call to you women to remember your age and resume your maturity level. Even if i did have chatlogs it's against tos to share them :) . I do hope yall did have fun either having sex or watching sex acts with someone whom you knew was underrage or at least heard "rumors" he was underrage. At least you all got some giggles though from it though huh? "Who wants to intentionally hurt their friends?" As adult women you shouldn't call young boys your friends, especially ones you know are up to no good. This shows you have no common sense…disagree? Emleigh has said multiple things in in this post about how bad he is…who considers someone a friend who they don't like anything about and knows this person is garbage? Who calls someone a friend that you let walk all over you? BRAINS LADIES BRAINS!! You are grown women, not teens. So, congratulations on being stomped on by a little boy pretending to be gay. I have nothing against any of you, but I find it sickening that you ONLY end this "friendship" after he gets called out for something that effects you all. Hopefully this was a wakeup call to you women to remember your age and resume your maturity level.

]]> By: Baily http://shoppingcartdisco.com/gossip/content-theft-stops-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-41740 Baily Tue, 29 Sep 2009 03:05:20 +0000 http://shoppingcartdisco.com/?p=4935#comment-41740 Emleigh Westland is right, when it's someone you consider a friend, *most* decent people are loyal to their friends, I'd believe someone I consider a friend over some blog tard (not refering to this blog btw) or other SL tard, any day. What's more, I don't actually judge my friends no matter what they do. My RL best friend could murder 10 people, It'd freak me out, but I'd still love him. Emleigh Westland is right, when it’s someone you consider a friend, *most* decent people are loyal to their friends, I’d believe someone I consider a friend over some blog tard (not refering to this blog btw) or other SL tard, any day. What’s more, I don’t actually judge my friends no matter what they do. My RL best friend could murder 10 people, It’d freak me out, but I’d still love him.

]]> By: EmleighWestland http://shoppingcartdisco.com/gossip/content-theft-stops-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-41739 EmleighWestland Tue, 29 Sep 2009 02:57:40 +0000 http://shoppingcartdisco.com/?p=4935#comment-41739 Like I said in my own comment here, who is really willing to throw their friend under the bus? No one. I came out. I attached my name to this. Tenshi's name is attached to this. Most of the commenters? No. Almost no one is attaching their full second life name to any of it. You want to say things, but you're too afraid to say it as who you are in world? Did I say ignoring the issue here was right? No, I did not. Did I say it was okay that he did this? No, I didn't. Who wants to intentionally hurt their friends? As to 14-17 year old, he lies from the get go about his age. Coincidentally it gets lower and lower each time age is mentioned. As for a little clique? Why is this even relevant? You and your friends are a clique and I know you'd have done the same exact thing if one of your friends was accused of this. You believe what you want to believe, and when you're friends with someone, you tend to believe their side. It's called loyalty. When a friendship is over, people talk about their horror stories with the other party. It just so happens that his horror stories happen to be theft, and lies. My hide? It's out there. I've attached my name to everything I've said about him because I have absolutely nothing to hide. Like I said in my own comment here, who is really willing to throw their friend under the bus? No one.

I came out. I attached my name to this. Tenshi's name is attached to this. Most of the commenters? No. Almost no one is attaching their full second life name to any of it. You want to say things, but you're too afraid to say it as who you are in world?

Did I say ignoring the issue here was right? No, I did not. Did I say it was okay that he did this? No, I didn't. Who wants to intentionally hurt their friends?

As to 14-17 year old, he lies from the get go about his age. Coincidentally it gets lower and lower each time age is mentioned. As for a little clique? Why is this even relevant? You and your friends are a clique and I know you'd have done the same exact thing if one of your friends was accused of this. You believe what you want to believe, and when you're friends with someone, you tend to believe their side. It's called loyalty.

When a friendship is over, people talk about their horror stories with the other party. It just so happens that his horror stories happen to be theft, and lies.

My hide? It's out there. I've attached my name to everything I've said about him because I have absolutely nothing to hide.

]]> By: scd http://shoppingcartdisco.com/gossip/content-theft-stops-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-41737 scd Tue, 29 Sep 2009 02:20:08 +0000 http://shoppingcartdisco.com/?p=4935#comment-41737 It was common knowledge? Did you have screenshots and chat logs? If you did, why didn't you come to me with it and save him from doing it for another six months? It was common knowledge? Did you have screenshots and chat logs? If you did, why didn't you come to me with it and save him from doing it for another six months?

]]> By: scd http://shoppingcartdisco.com/gossip/content-theft-stops-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-41738 scd Tue, 29 Sep 2009 02:20:08 +0000 http://shoppingcartdisco.com/?p=4935#comment-41738 It was common knowledge? Did you have screenshots and chat logs? If you did, why didn't you come to me with it and save him from doing it for another six months? It was common knowledge? Did you have screenshots and chat logs? If you did, why didn't you come to me with it and save him from doing it for another six months?

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