Comments on: SL Secret, Week 64

By: Tesa Jewell

Tesa Jewell — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:41:28 +0000

NO Kidding! I swear people are so rude. You are not OWED anything for being a customer of a designer, you found them because you liked their product. Now you expect them to give you custom for you free things? If they give out a gift you say thank you and move along not bitch b/c it’s not your preferred color! FFS really? Did mothers forget to teach manners or did the kids just forget them, I am shocked by how often comes up. Grrrr

By: Wrenja

Wrenja — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 00:09:32 +0000

I guess, but really, how many people use an entire range of skins? I know there are people, but most stick to one skin tone. I know I do for the most part, and plenty of other people do as well. It certainly doesn't seem to hurt the creators who do so, from Atomic (i know they gave out a full range for 4th of july), to Cupcakes etc.

By: Bluegum

Bluegum — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:28:18 +0000

/me pulls Bliss over his knee and spanks her shouting 'I've told you [slap} a hundred times [slap] not to use sarcasm [slap] people are just too damn [slap] sensitive! [slap].

By: 3blahs1whatever

3blahs1whatever — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:36:20 +0000

Thats debatable. I cant remember the last time I laid eyes on a clearly visible "Caucasian" male avatar. They all seem to want to be Tall, Dark, and Handsome.

By: Daria Nubalo

Daria Nubalo — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:17:44 +0000

Well it seems that Bliss Windlow's humour is not for all people, her 'tongue in cheek' sarcasm approach is taken the wrong way by some people, I thought it was a very funny way of supporting the designers way of giving freebies.

By: Annyka

Annyka — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:29:19 +0000

Maybe if more people put their money where their mouths were and actually *supported* the creators who DO offer diverse skins, there'd be more of them available.

By: casia

casia — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:52:12 +0000

ily creamy <3

By: Creamy

Creamy — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:23:11 +0000

I thought # 3 might be about me, but then again it can't be – I've always been about free shit and fame. o/

By: Leilani Topaz

Leilani Topaz — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:19:59 +0000

#5, yes you do. holding a gun doesn't make you look any less like you got beat up…pulease…#4, i will duke it out with you to be Emma #1, you have a point, since i never wear paler skin tones…but also, be grateful they gave anything!

By: Shamrawk

Shamrawk — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:12:47 +0000

Its not about racism, J freaking C. And i don't know what groups ya'll are in, but the one or two i have been in for a while dont give out free stuff.
You cant make everyone happy. Thats the bottom line.

By: Man_In_A_Skirt

Man_In_A_Skirt — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:00:15 +0000

I agree, everything comes down to supply and demand, even in SL. Creators tend to make more of what sells. Unfortunately, there is little demand for black skins as most avatars choose to be caucasian in SL.

By: Lizzie Lexington

Lizzie Lexington — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:01:39 +0000

I absolutely agree with you Catero 100%. And that's all I have to say at this time, ha!

By: Darkley

Darkley — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:26:54 +0000

In SL, it can be, its supply and demand, skin makers know what sells, and its their choice to give a freebie/marketing copy to customers and potential customers

There are lots and lots of skin makers who do give out varied tones.

By: Shimere Felisimo

Shimere Felisimo — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:34:21 +0000

Hmmmm…a lot of people seem to not get that #1 isn't about freebies, it's about racism. It isn't exactly the same thing as bitching, "Oh, you sent out a free purple dress, and I wanted the blue."

By: XiomaraMendes

XiomaraMendes — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:23:02 +0000

I don't know, Stella, I wandered around Tuli yesterday just to make sure I hadn't missed anything. I've been there in the past and left with nothing but disappointment. I didn't see anything that was darker than a medium tan. Since there are plenty of stores that offer skins in my preferred tone, I'll shop there instead.

By: 3blahs1whatever

3blahs1whatever — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:04:51 +0000

The problem with giving out "all" skin tones is that you just gave your group your entire range for free.

A good idea would be for someone to create a play-off of the "one per avatar" script and have it so it works amongst a network of prims. For instance, shop owner sends out a notice saying "Free skins as a thank you, TP to pick one up from this attached landmark!". Customers go to the location, there are 5 skins set out, light to dark..something for everybody. They are set in 5 separate boxes, and a script is inserted into all boxes. The script prevents a single avatar from being able to buy (For 0L) all 5 boxes. They can only pick ONE box. After receiving their choice of skin, any attempt to buy from one of the other 4 boxes is declined. This way, everybody has a choice of 5 skin tones to choose from, while at the same time, shop owner is not handing out their entire range to everybody.

I know there is a script that does that but it only works with one product box. Someone should make a script that works amongst a network of boxes for situations like these.

By: Vasha Martinek

Vasha Martinek — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:03:10 +0000

Suspect I know who #3 is about.
Never did quite get this kind of sentiment. No one starts publishing on an internationally accessible platform because they want to remain obscure. And given the type of blog it is… where else could it have gone, really? If not fame and freebies. Well, I suppose they could have failed. Maybe that would have made you happier.

By: DramaLlamaOverload

DramaLlamaOverload — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 06:57:30 +0000

I fully support this.

By: Bliss Windlow

Bliss Windlow — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 06:55:00 +0000

you know .. the damn designers …. can't protect their shit, get all whiney and sensitive when they lose money, they used to be interesting but now they are sell-outs, they think they are all that, everyone used to date them but dumped them because they can't stand them anymore, everyone else does their work actually, they are all fakes, they can't figure out the right freebies to hand out … and I hated the colour of that last dress they gave me …. let's just line them all up and let #5 take them out and then we can all get back to bowling online which is my real passion ….

By: Catero

Catero — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 05:03:37 +0000

As for #1: Skins are a fundamental part of one's identity – real life or Second Life. Being exluded from something based on skin tone is nothing new under the sun … and it a sensitive issue for many. By offering something in a specific tone range, particularly something like a freebie skin to an update group – which is primarily a gesture of appreciation and secondarily marketing promo tool – the inadvertent message is that only those whose preference it is to wear lighter tones were a consideration and only that group is appreciated.

Especially when the skin creator already offers light to dark tones, but chooses consistently to acknowledge only wearers of light skins with gifts, this can alienate existing customers and prevent prospective ones from subscribing to one's brand.

That's a sure way to lose my patronage.

All or nothing when it comes to freebie skin tones, IMO.

The medium is the message.

By: StellaWasTaken

StellaWasTaken — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 04:13:47 +0000

I own dark skin tones from Tuli and by dark I don't mean tan. I went to the store and noticed her latest releases didn't feature a darker tone than tan. She's supposed to release a newer skin soon so we'll have to see then.

By: leilani_a

leilani_a — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 01:46:49 +0000

Just two comments:

Freebies are a gift not a privilege.

Love #5.

By: Arlene

Arlene — Sun, 25 Oct 2009 21:48:32 +0000

#5 Uh, yes actually you do. A pissed off victim with two guns.

By: Amy

Amy — Sun, 25 Oct 2009 20:22:58 +0000

Hmm let's see in the past month I have gotten darker skins from Belleza, Free Speerit and Cupcakes-so yeah join some different groups.

By: Kittywitch

Kittywitch — Sun, 25 Oct 2009 18:19:20 +0000

*LOVE* #5, completely the response that was required after the furore that was generated. Couldn't have been put more eloquently..and the picture is HOT!
=^..^=

By: DuskyJewell

DuskyJewell — Sun, 25 Oct 2009 18:13:23 +0000

LOL@5. Yes. The guns are badass. Not the dork holding them for protection after getting her eye busted. But an impressive message for those who aspire to be tough, nonetheless. Heh. (I am a gun collector and don't see guns as empowerment.)

1. Don't wear freebie skins. You will feel less like a tool on ignore, if you stock up on skins that are EXACTLY what you want. Freebies are always the wrong skin tone, the wrong eyeshadow, the wrong lipcolor…fricking USELESS..period. OK?

3. You need to just STFU…or pay her webhost/domain bill.

By: XiomaraMendes

XiomaraMendes — Sun, 25 Oct 2009 18:04:34 +0000

@ # 1: Even in 2009, a lot of SL skin designers still don't care about black/brown people. This isn't exactly news. I find it annoying too, since my lindens are just as good as fair skinned people's lindens. Sin Skins just put out a group gift in all their skin tones- now you know where to bring your business.

(I don't know why you all seem to think Tuli offers dark skins, btw. I'm there right now, and the darkest shade offered is a medium tan. I imagine that's not what #1 is looking for, and thank goodness there are plenty of skin shops in SL that have something for us dark and lovely types.)

@ #5- Are we, perhaps, familiar? Well done all around, from the sentiment to the artwork.

By: Selonna Torok

Selonna Torok — Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:53:19 +0000

Why not try wearing a different skin color? It's free – it didn't hurt your linden balance any. And, it's fun to try on different skin colors to see how they will react with certain hair, styles of dress, etc.

By: Jori Watler

Jori Watler — Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:44:00 +0000

nice button broken and I love it!

By: Lets go to Baton Rouge

Lets go to Baton Rouge — Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:31:02 +0000

[...] No matter how sad Tenshi makes Adric by beating him, each Sunday she comes back and makes him a yummy lunch we call SLsecrets. [...]

By: Man_In_A_Skirt

Man_In_A_Skirt — Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:28:10 +0000

yes, support your equal rights skin designers! Let the racist skin designers perish!

By: Hybie

Hybie — Sun, 25 Oct 2009 16:47:21 +0000

#5 – high fuckin five!!!

#4- I call sue!!

#1- I'll take your free pale skin if you don't want it

By: Renee H

Renee H — Sun, 25 Oct 2009 16:28:45 +0000

LOVE NUMBER 5! You look gorgeous and like someone I'mma need on my FL.

By: Ann Otoole

Ann Otoole — Sun, 25 Oct 2009 16:14:12 +0000

When the gifts are a part of SL History (even xstreet is planning on banning freebies so what is next?) then you can thank the wrong attitudes for it. I used to have a big pile of gifts in my store. Right up until the day those people were standing in my store oblivious to who I was talking about how stupid designers are for giving away so much stuff. I agreed with them and deleted the freebie pile before their eyes. "Oh this is your store?" hah hah yes it is.

Go ahead and complain all you want. Probably won't be too long before you have to actually buy something to complain about it.

(As for the green alien smudges? Sounds like someone is altering tints but doesn't actually have the highlights on a separate layer. hmmmm)

By: Whispers

Whispers — Sun, 25 Oct 2009 15:46:47 +0000

/me hugs Winter lmao