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		<title>By: Darcy Foxtrot</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/op-ed-digitallife/morphing-breaks-copyright/comment-page-1/#comment-47393</link>
		<dc:creator>Darcy Foxtrot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 18:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I worked for ATOG *chuckles* Most of the Flickr page for this business contains pictures that have quite clearly used images that are not lawfully the &#039;artist&#039;s&#039; to use.  Mariposa is allowing this to go on.  And I don&#039;t agree with it.  But as many have stated, until the original creators file against Mariposa (and yes, you can be filed against) then there really isn&#039;t anything anyone can do about it *shrugs* ... Look around your sl homes.. I can guarentee you that most of the textures are taken off of google images.. Wether stolen or royalty free stock.. Everyone on this whole copying, theft, ripping band wagon is just getting their knickers in a twist.  If it is out of your control, then just leave it be.  Don&#039;t cause yourselves the stress.  Nothing is original anymore.  Not in Second Life, not in real life.  Fashion and music will continue to come around time and time again.  

And for the record.. the morphs are fug :]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I worked for ATOG *chuckles* Most of the Flickr page for this business contains pictures that have quite clearly used images that are not lawfully the &#8216;artist&#8217;s&#8217; to use.  Mariposa is allowing this to go on.  And I don&#8217;t agree with it.  But as many have stated, until the original creators file against Mariposa (and yes, you can be filed against) then there really isn&#8217;t anything anyone can do about it *shrugs* &#8230; Look around your sl homes.. I can guarentee you that most of the textures are taken off of google images.. Wether stolen or royalty free stock.. Everyone on this whole copying, theft, ripping band wagon is just getting their knickers in a twist.  If it is out of your control, then just leave it be.  Don&#8217;t cause yourselves the stress.  Nothing is original anymore.  Not in Second Life, not in real life.  Fashion and music will continue to come around time and time again.  </p>
<p>And for the record.. the morphs are fug :]</p>
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		<title>By: SLLA</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/op-ed-digitallife/morphing-breaks-copyright/comment-page-1/#comment-46605</link>
		<dc:creator>SLLA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 02:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For all you people up in arms over morphing pic&#039;s take a gander at this 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8463657.stm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For all you people up in arms over morphing pic&#8217;s take a gander at this<br />
<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8463657.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8463657.stm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Uncle morph</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/op-ed-digitallife/morphing-breaks-copyright/comment-page-1/#comment-46584</link>
		<dc:creator>Uncle morph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 11:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just as an after thought who would you like to be morphed with?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just as an after thought who would you like to be morphed with?</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle morph</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/op-ed-digitallife/morphing-breaks-copyright/comment-page-1/#comment-46583</link>
		<dc:creator>Uncle morph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 11:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When i get around to doing some SLtography i will send you a personal invite,at the moment all my work on flickr is real life work and as they say RL and SL do not mix and in my case RL flickr and SL flickr will be two accounts keep an eye out for an invite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When i get around to doing some SLtography i will send you a personal invite,at the moment all my work on flickr is real life work and as they say RL and SL do not mix and in my case RL flickr and SL flickr will be two accounts keep an eye out for an invite.</p>
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		<title>By: darkleyaeon</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/op-ed-digitallife/morphing-breaks-copyright/comment-page-1/#comment-46576</link>
		<dc:creator>darkleyaeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 06:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tell your brother, go for it.  Link to your flickr?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tell your brother, go for it.  Link to your flickr?</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle morph</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/op-ed-digitallife/morphing-breaks-copyright/comment-page-1/#comment-46575</link>
		<dc:creator>Uncle morph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 03:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im just getting started in the game of SL and yes i am a photographer and yes i have a flick site and a web site and yes i Morph Pictures.
You can use any picture you like under the fair use act for morphing as long as you do not do it for finacial gain.

Ive done 100&#039;s of Morph pic&#039;s even had some on display even had them printed in media all for free on the provision that my real shots are used 

No you do not have to give credit to the owner of the original pic due to the fair use even though it is a nice thing to do 

Oh by the way the brother in law is an IP lawyer makes a lot more than i do wonder if i should tell him about SL 

have a nice day</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im just getting started in the game of SL and yes i am a photographer and yes i have a flick site and a web site and yes i Morph Pictures.<br />
You can use any picture you like under the fair use act for morphing as long as you do not do it for finacial gain.</p>
<p>Ive done 100&#8242;s of Morph pic&#8217;s even had some on display even had them printed in media all for free on the provision that my real shots are used </p>
<p>No you do not have to give credit to the owner of the original pic due to the fair use even though it is a nice thing to do </p>
<p>Oh by the way the brother in law is an IP lawyer makes a lot more than i do wonder if i should tell him about SL </p>
<p>have a nice day</p>
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		<title>By: Ziek</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/op-ed-digitallife/morphing-breaks-copyright/comment-page-1/#comment-46522</link>
		<dc:creator>Ziek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 06:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These pictures are so creepy. I hope people stop making them not just because of the permissions but that they&#039;re hideous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These pictures are so creepy. I hope people stop making them not just because of the permissions but that they&#8217;re hideous.</p>
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		<title>By: JJliston</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/op-ed-digitallife/morphing-breaks-copyright/comment-page-1/#comment-46499</link>
		<dc:creator>JJliston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 01:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not just make the SL morph a parody your not using the real persons face your making a parody of something and everyone knows its not real 
problem solved.I also bet if you showed a 100 people the picture they wouldn&#039;t have a clue where the picture came from or who it was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not just make the SL morph a parody your not using the real persons face your making a parody of something and everyone knows its not real<br />
problem solved.I also bet if you showed a 100 people the picture they wouldn&#8217;t have a clue where the picture came from or who it was.</p>
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		<title>By: darkleyaeon</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/op-ed-digitallife/morphing-breaks-copyright/comment-page-1/#comment-46288</link>
		<dc:creator>darkleyaeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 15:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have tried that in the past with no success at all, sending people private flickr mails that either go unanswered or resulting in being blocked.  I spoke to the owner of the biggest photography studio in SL who sets the tone for all her staff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have tried that in the past with no success at all, sending people private flickr mails that either go unanswered or resulting in being blocked.  I spoke to the owner of the biggest photography studio in SL who sets the tone for all her staff.</p>
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		<title>By: Pandora Wrigglesworth</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/op-ed-digitallife/morphing-breaks-copyright/comment-page-1/#comment-46286</link>
		<dc:creator>Pandora Wrigglesworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 14:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This all went on way too long. If it were me, I would have just contacted some of the original photographers with the information and left it up to them to deal with it as they see fit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This all went on way too long. If it were me, I would have just contacted some of the original photographers with the information and left it up to them to deal with it as they see fit.</p>
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		<title>By: darkleyaeon</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/op-ed-digitallife/morphing-breaks-copyright/comment-page-1/#comment-46173</link>
		<dc:creator>darkleyaeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 13:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I already did, and you used the example of consulting a RL photographer as if that proved your point. It doesnt I was a RL photographer and I know that you can use someone elses work without consent.

Using images you have no permission for, which are under copyright for profit is not fair use, is not personal use and is not legal, which a RL Lawyer would know

Show me some actual evidence that you are correct please</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I already did, and you used the example of consulting a RL photographer as if that proved your point. It doesnt I was a RL photographer and I know that you can use someone elses work without consent.</p>
<p>Using images you have no permission for, which are under copyright for profit is not fair use, is not personal use and is not legal, which a RL Lawyer would know</p>
<p>Show me some actual evidence that you are correct please</p>
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		<title>By: JC VanArt</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/op-ed-digitallife/morphing-breaks-copyright/comment-page-1/#comment-46169</link>
		<dc:creator>JC VanArt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 11:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pardon my spelling errors.  everyone is prone to a typo now and then. If you had been reading and comprehending what I wrote (maybe the typo was to much for you to be able to do so) you would have understood that I did not ask you if you were a rl photographer.  I commented that I consulted with a real life photographer and also an attorney. Clearly you have no real answer so you have reverted to a childish game by pointing out a typo for the purpose of overlooking your shit-stirring massive error.  By the way are you ever going to respond to the accusations I mentioned above? Or are you going to find a typo to focus on up there too? Suck on that &#039;dear&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pardon my spelling errors.  everyone is prone to a typo now and then. If you had been reading and comprehending what I wrote (maybe the typo was to much for you to be able to do so) you would have understood that I did not ask you if you were a rl photographer.  I commented that I consulted with a real life photographer and also an attorney. Clearly you have no real answer so you have reverted to a childish game by pointing out a typo for the purpose of overlooking your shit-stirring massive error.  By the way are you ever going to respond to the accusations I mentioned above? Or are you going to find a typo to focus on up there too? Suck on that &#8216;dear&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: MiMi</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/op-ed-digitallife/morphing-breaks-copyright/comment-page-1/#comment-46156</link>
		<dc:creator>MiMi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 18:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Way to slam 20 artists you don&#039;t even know.  Loser.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way to slam 20 artists you don&#8217;t even know.  Loser.</p>
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		<title>By: MiMi</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/op-ed-digitallife/morphing-breaks-copyright/comment-page-1/#comment-46154</link>
		<dc:creator>MiMi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 18:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^^opinion</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^^opinion</p>
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		<title>By: MiMi</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/op-ed-digitallife/morphing-breaks-copyright/comment-page-1/#comment-46153</link>
		<dc:creator>MiMi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 18:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ask the person who made the skin or the person who bought the skin and then bought a photo of themselves in it.  It&#039;s all a matter of opionion what is beautiful and what is hideous.  What you don&#039;t like, someone else does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ask the person who made the skin or the person who bought the skin and then bought a photo of themselves in it.  It&#8217;s all a matter of opionion what is beautiful and what is hideous.  What you don&#8217;t like, someone else does.</p>
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		<title>By: darkleyaeon</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/op-ed-digitallife/morphing-breaks-copyright/comment-page-1/#comment-46048</link>
		<dc:creator>darkleyaeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes &#039;dear&#039; I was a professional RL photographer, and its &#039;attorney&#039; not Atourney :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes &#8216;dear&#8217; I was a professional RL photographer, and its &#8216;attorney&#8217; not Atourney <img src='http://shoppingcartdisco.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: JC VanArt</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/op-ed-digitallife/morphing-breaks-copyright/comment-page-1/#comment-46046</link>
		<dc:creator>JC VanArt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 11:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My dear - I consulted a real life photographer AND a real life Atourney. I suggest you do the same before you talk out of your rear end as you seem to do quite often.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My dear &#8211; I consulted a real life photographer AND a real life Atourney. I suggest you do the same before you talk out of your rear end as you seem to do quite often.</p>
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		<title>By: JC VanArt</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/op-ed-digitallife/morphing-breaks-copyright/comment-page-1/#comment-45983</link>
		<dc:creator>JC VanArt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 12:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i retract that statement - I did not realize Hotdog was Lav. My mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i retract that statement &#8211; I did not realize Hotdog was Lav. My mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: JC VanArt</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/op-ed-digitallife/morphing-breaks-copyright/comment-page-1/#comment-45982</link>
		<dc:creator>JC VanArt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 12:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>incidentally, have you ever worked in the real world where your the artist working for a non artist? It happens more often than not. So big freakin deal- if an employer wants to do quality control, its their right. If you don&#039;t like it don&#039;t work for the person.

Honestly, this is the first place I have  everheard of and critical comments on ATOG artists as a whole.  Again, I am of the opinion this is all just jelousy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>incidentally, have you ever worked in the real world where your the artist working for a non artist? It happens more often than not. So big freakin deal- if an employer wants to do quality control, its their right. If you don&#8217;t like it don&#8217;t work for the person.</p>
<p>Honestly, this is the first place I have  everheard of and critical comments on ATOG artists as a whole.  Again, I am of the opinion this is all just jelousy.</p>
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		<title>By: darkleyaeon</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/op-ed-digitallife/morphing-breaks-copyright/comment-page-1/#comment-45980</link>
		<dc:creator>darkleyaeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 12:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>except they havent purchased the images, they just took them from the internet, and its not personal usage when you profit from it, and create a business around it.

I suggest you actually look at copyright law, because you have got virtually everything wrong so far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>except they havent purchased the images, they just took them from the internet, and its not personal usage when you profit from it, and create a business around it.</p>
<p>I suggest you actually look at copyright law, because you have got virtually everything wrong so far.</p>
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		<title>By: JC VanArt</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/op-ed-digitallife/morphing-breaks-copyright/comment-page-1/#comment-45979</link>
		<dc:creator>JC VanArt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 12:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>having netted well over 200000L as a photographer at ATOG over the past year - and I am not working atm... I would say its a fair trade. 

if that is not enough L for ya - the I wish you much luck in acheiving the traffic and the sales that ATOG does.  Mariposa deserves her cut and anyone fussing over the amountshe makes is just jelous of her success - because they have not figured out how or why she is successful and cannot acheive the same level of success themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>having netted well over 200000L as a photographer at ATOG over the past year &#8211; and I am not working atm&#8230; I would say its a fair trade. </p>
<p>if that is not enough L for ya &#8211; the I wish you much luck in acheiving the traffic and the sales that ATOG does.  Mariposa deserves her cut and anyone fussing over the amountshe makes is just jelous of her success &#8211; because they have not figured out how or why she is successful and cannot acheive the same level of success themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: JC VanArt</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/op-ed-digitallife/morphing-breaks-copyright/comment-page-1/#comment-45978</link>
		<dc:creator>JC VanArt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>??????
Morphs came before any particular person - Hotdogs included.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>??????<br />
Morphs came before any particular person &#8211; Hotdogs included.</p>
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		<title>By: JC VanArt</title>
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		<dc:creator>JC VanArt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the usage by the purchaser matters dear if the artist is not using the artwork as anything other than an example - then there is no problem. Its personal usage - plain and simple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the usage by the purchaser matters dear if the artist is not using the artwork as anything other than an example &#8211; then there is no problem. Its personal usage &#8211; plain and simple.</p>
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		<title>By: Hotdogs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hotdogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 21:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeps, I sure did.  I believe this was during the time when I started this and when I was stealing too without being aware of it?  Yes, but you see these people already know that since I said it.  I am not sure who you are, but it&#039;s not a crime to charge loads of money to do things that come easily.  I really thought it came easily to all people to be honest because there is no imagination or really effort there.  But it is supply and demand and people wanted it.  I made money, go me yay.  You can&#039;t slam me upside the head for not being aware but you could if I continued it..which I did not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeps, I sure did.  I believe this was during the time when I started this and when I was stealing too without being aware of it?  Yes, but you see these people already know that since I said it.  I am not sure who you are, but it&#8217;s not a crime to charge loads of money to do things that come easily.  I really thought it came easily to all people to be honest because there is no imagination or really effort there.  But it is supply and demand and people wanted it.  I made money, go me yay.  You can&#8217;t slam me upside the head for not being aware but you could if I continued it..which I did not.</p>
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		<title>By: Karina Larkham</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/op-ed-digitallife/morphing-breaks-copyright/comment-page-1/#comment-45950</link>
		<dc:creator>Karina Larkham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 19:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think these pictures are terribly creepy.  That being said, I wonder if these individuals that are in essence stealing these real life photographs would have issue with someone in world taking their morphed images and selling them for profit?  Hmmm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think these pictures are terribly creepy.  That being said, I wonder if these individuals that are in essence stealing these real life photographs would have issue with someone in world taking their morphed images and selling them for profit?  Hmmm.</p>
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		<title>By: call me crazy</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/op-ed-digitallife/morphing-breaks-copyright/comment-page-1/#comment-45931</link>
		<dc:creator>call me crazy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 07:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ha Point made!

You can&#039;t put lipstick on a pig.

Trying to save face when it&#039;s too late.  Just go put your tail between your legs Mari and walk off.

The only thing I wish is that you learned your lesson and that you learn to treat people better, otherwise karma is gonna continue kicking you in the ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ha Point made!</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t put lipstick on a pig.</p>
<p>Trying to save face when it&#8217;s too late.  Just go put your tail between your legs Mari and walk off.</p>
<p>The only thing I wish is that you learned your lesson and that you learn to treat people better, otherwise karma is gonna continue kicking you in the ass.</p>
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		<title>By: call me crazy</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/op-ed-digitallife/morphing-breaks-copyright/comment-page-1/#comment-45930</link>
		<dc:creator>call me crazy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 07:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again Mariposa.

You&#039;re full of shit. 

The way you talked to Darkley was rude.
The way you approached Tyr was rude.

Not to mention the way you&#039;ve talked to other business people and have sent your cronies after them.  Yeah I know how you handle things in the past.  &quot;Darling.&quot;

You still have a poor way of picking up your tracks.  

It&#039;s kind of like saying, &quot;Oh yeah I bought that movie for $5 through a friend, I had NO idea it was stolen!&quot;  

That you&#039;ve been investigating this from teh beginning?  Please.

And just because someone attacked you, doesn&#039;t make it right for you to attack them back.  
real business people don&#039;t act that way.  Or actually, I should say, SMART business people.

And maybe you&#039;re right.  It is personal.  Because you&#039;re now starting to listen to people, when it&#039;s already too late.  Your head is too big.  News flash, you&#039;ve made more enemies then friends.  You just have no idea how many and who they are.  If you had any idea how much shit is talked behind your back, you might rethink about how you handle your business and &quot;competition.&quot;

I&#039;d wish you good luck.  But that&#039;d be a lie.

So I just hope you really are trying to be more diplomatic and not just saving face here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again Mariposa.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re full of shit. </p>
<p>The way you talked to Darkley was rude.<br />
The way you approached Tyr was rude.</p>
<p>Not to mention the way you&#8217;ve talked to other business people and have sent your cronies after them.  Yeah I know how you handle things in the past.  &#8220;Darling.&#8221;</p>
<p>You still have a poor way of picking up your tracks.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s kind of like saying, &#8220;Oh yeah I bought that movie for $5 through a friend, I had NO idea it was stolen!&#8221;  </p>
<p>That you&#8217;ve been investigating this from teh beginning?  Please.</p>
<p>And just because someone attacked you, doesn&#8217;t make it right for you to attack them back.<br />
real business people don&#8217;t act that way.  Or actually, I should say, SMART business people.</p>
<p>And maybe you&#8217;re right.  It is personal.  Because you&#8217;re now starting to listen to people, when it&#8217;s already too late.  Your head is too big.  News flash, you&#8217;ve made more enemies then friends.  You just have no idea how many and who they are.  If you had any idea how much shit is talked behind your back, you might rethink about how you handle your business and &#8220;competition.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d wish you good luck.  But that&#8217;d be a lie.</p>
<p>So I just hope you really are trying to be more diplomatic and not just saving face here.</p>
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		<title>By: Amira Footman</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/op-ed-digitallife/morphing-breaks-copyright/comment-page-1/#comment-45924</link>
		<dc:creator>Amira Footman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 03:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL ooo Mari, perhaps people would be more inclined to believe you if you hadn&#039;t posted that comment ^^ using the same name as you used to post the IM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL ooo Mari, perhaps people would be more inclined to believe you if you hadn&#8217;t posted that comment ^^ using the same name as you used to post the IM.</p>
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		<title>By: Another ATOG Photographer</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/op-ed-digitallife/morphing-breaks-copyright/comment-page-1/#comment-45923</link>
		<dc:creator>Another ATOG Photographer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 02:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I didnt Amira but the fact that it ended up here does nothing but show that this is just a never-ending breeding ground for drama so i&#039;m done.  I&#039;ve asked all my atog staff to avoid giving in to this drama any further and I will do the same.  Eventually you will all find another person to harass and belittle to pass your time.

For everyone else, thanks for helping me through this very hard lesson.  I will be doing my best to make sure mistakes like this dont exist in my future or the future of atog.  This will be my last post and even my last visit to this site so do try and respect each other and remember that while its quite easy to point out the faults of others, none of us are perfect so would you like your mistakes to be brought to your attention in a constructive helpful manner or trashed all over some website for all to feast on....think about that

Best Wishes to all in your new year
Mariposa Menges</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I didnt Amira but the fact that it ended up here does nothing but show that this is just a never-ending breeding ground for drama so i&#8217;m done.  I&#8217;ve asked all my atog staff to avoid giving in to this drama any further and I will do the same.  Eventually you will all find another person to harass and belittle to pass your time.</p>
<p>For everyone else, thanks for helping me through this very hard lesson.  I will be doing my best to make sure mistakes like this dont exist in my future or the future of atog.  This will be my last post and even my last visit to this site so do try and respect each other and remember that while its quite easy to point out the faults of others, none of us are perfect so would you like your mistakes to be brought to your attention in a constructive helpful manner or trashed all over some website for all to feast on&#8230;.think about that</p>
<p>Best Wishes to all in your new year<br />
Mariposa Menges</p>
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		<title>By: Naoki Ninetails</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/op-ed-digitallife/morphing-breaks-copyright/comment-page-1/#comment-45921</link>
		<dc:creator>Naoki Ninetails</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 00:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another example of SL &quot;creators&quot; denying reality in order to make money off of someone else&#039;s work and getting away with it because there&#039;s no way to directly slam them for it other than to get people talking.

That people really seem to think that if you can download an image from the internet you can do anything with it, including make money off of it, really fucking floors me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another example of SL &#8220;creators&#8221; denying reality in order to make money off of someone else&#8217;s work and getting away with it because there&#8217;s no way to directly slam them for it other than to get people talking.</p>
<p>That people really seem to think that if you can download an image from the internet you can do anything with it, including make money off of it, really fucking floors me.</p>
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		<title>By: Amira Footman</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/op-ed-digitallife/morphing-breaks-copyright/comment-page-1/#comment-45920</link>
		<dc:creator>Amira Footman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 23:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SCD clients = SCD readers, got clients on the bloody brain.</description>
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		<title>By: Amira Footman</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/op-ed-digitallife/morphing-breaks-copyright/comment-page-1/#comment-45919</link>
		<dc:creator>Amira Footman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 23:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok so the above wasn&#039;t posted by me, I suspect it was posted by Mariposa, which is fine, I stand by what I said to her, this isn&#039;t all her fault, she isn&#039;t responsible for anyone&#039;s actions but her own, and it&#039;s a shame she is now feeling so angry and upset she&#039;s hitting out at anyone she can and I&#039;m sure my resignation has left her feeling even more upset and betrayed, all very understandable, no hard feelings Mari, we&#039;re all adults, eh? The majority of SCD clients are, well, not the kind of SL users who would be aware of SCD, that&#039;s all I&#039;m saying on THAT, but if anyone really does want a further explanation, pop into the AToG gallery sometime and people watch, you&#039;ll get the idea. I had no wish to pass on less than amicable terms with Mari or AToG, so take care, Mari, ...darling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok so the above wasn&#8217;t posted by me, I suspect it was posted by Mariposa, which is fine, I stand by what I said to her, this isn&#8217;t all her fault, she isn&#8217;t responsible for anyone&#8217;s actions but her own, and it&#8217;s a shame she is now feeling so angry and upset she&#8217;s hitting out at anyone she can and I&#8217;m sure my resignation has left her feeling even more upset and betrayed, all very understandable, no hard feelings Mari, we&#8217;re all adults, eh? The majority of SCD clients are, well, not the kind of SL users who would be aware of SCD, that&#8217;s all I&#8217;m saying on THAT, but if anyone really does want a further explanation, pop into the AToG gallery sometime and people watch, you&#8217;ll get the idea. I had no wish to pass on less than amicable terms with Mari or AToG, so take care, Mari, &#8230;darling.</p>
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		<title>By: Another ATOG Photographer</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/op-ed-digitallife/morphing-breaks-copyright/comment-page-1/#comment-45918</link>
		<dc:creator>Another ATOG Photographer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 22:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[14:10]  Amira Footman: Anyone who accuses you of this all being your fault is talking bullshit as far as I am concerned, people are responsible for their own actions, and you can&#039;t be expected to know everything, but it is the case, however difficult it may be, that content and copyright issues are a huge thing right now, and SCD especially are jumping on any opportunity to cause drama from it. But, on the upside, it&#039;s SCD, very few take it seriously and to be perfectly honest I&#039;d go so far as to saying that I highly highly doubt even 1% of AToG clients even read SCD!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[14:10]  Amira Footman: Anyone who accuses you of this all being your fault is talking bullshit as far as I am concerned, people are responsible for their own actions, and you can&#8217;t be expected to know everything, but it is the case, however difficult it may be, that content and copyright issues are a huge thing right now, and SCD especially are jumping on any opportunity to cause drama from it. But, on the upside, it&#8217;s SCD, very few take it seriously and to be perfectly honest I&#8217;d go so far as to saying that I highly highly doubt even 1% of AToG clients even read SCD!</p>
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		<title>By: darkleyaeon</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/op-ed-digitallife/morphing-breaks-copyright/comment-page-1/#comment-45917</link>
		<dc:creator>darkleyaeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 21:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t write it to &#039;create excitement&#039; no, anyone who knows me, knows that I have long hated these morphs, found them lazy and ugly.  I wanted to write about it so people realise what they are, overpriced for little work and contributing to IP theft, as you can see from the 2 conversations I had people seem to be completely unaware that you can just take a google image and use it as your own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t write it to &#8216;create excitement&#8217; no, anyone who knows me, knows that I have long hated these morphs, found them lazy and ugly.  I wanted to write about it so people realise what they are, overpriced for little work and contributing to IP theft, as you can see from the 2 conversations I had people seem to be completely unaware that you can just take a google image and use it as your own.</p>
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		<title>By: Another ATOG Photographer</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/op-ed-digitallife/morphing-breaks-copyright/comment-page-1/#comment-45916</link>
		<dc:creator>Another ATOG Photographer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 20:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok so I guess I should thank Darkley really, because as much as I disagree with her making a post which, in my opinion, was simply to create a bit of excitement it did make me examine the kind of organization I was working with and after some thinking I decided that while I wasn&#039;t selling anyone ELSE out I did feel like I was selling myself out. Plus I decided I didn&#039;t want to feel like I had to hide my opinions on this matter out of fear of losing my &#039;job&#039;. Also, out of interest, you may like to see the following conversation I had with the manager of ATOG a week or so ago, perhaps it will clear up the false belief that some people have that ALL ATOG photographers are theives. 

[2009/12/17 13:27]  Amira Footmanâ€§: ok, I just got asked to do a morph, and the client said she had the images she wanted morphed and she gave me the link to a couple of pics on deviant art and I was wondering if we had a company policy regarding stealing art for morphs? Because I am not prepared to break the law and I don&#039;t think we should be promoting such practices to our clients. It&#039;s not fair on the reps and it&#039;s not fair on us photographers either to be put in the position where we&#039;re having to turn work down because we won&#039;t commit a crime, no matter how insignificant that crime may be to some people.
[2009/12/17 13:27]  Melenda: it is up to you to use them .. if the deviant artist doesnt allow their work to be used then dont use it
[2009/12/17 13:27]  Melenda: some might
[2009/12/17 13:27]  Melenda: but it is a personal decision
[2009/12/17 13:28]  Melenda: explain to the client that is art from someone that doesnt allow you to use it for such a nature
[2009/12/17 13:30]  Amira Footmanâ€§: but don&#039;t you think it should be a company decision? To say that the company does not promote breaking the law? If we were working for ourselves then yes, I would agree it was a personal decision, but as a company I can&#039;t help but think it should be something that is a policy, as probably the busiest studio in SL isn&#039;t it our responsibility to set the standard?
[2009/12/17 13:38]  Melenda: that is something that you would have to talk to mari about not somethign I can make a call on

Lastly, to the people who have tarred every ATOG photographer as being talentless (Tyr! You&#039;re a good person and you know how long I&#039;ve championed your talent and efforts, from giving you free advertising while I was working for a magazine, to inviting you to take part in widely publicized a fashion show for free, to blogging about your store, to picturing your stuff on my Flickr. I&#039;m shocked that you are so willing to throw everyone, even people you don&#039;t know, into the same basket.) at least hold your condemnation until you&#039;ve made sure you&#039;ve at least made the effort to look at every ATOG photographer&#039;s work, and if that&#039;s too much effort, well then hold your judgements. I&#039;m not proud to have worked for ATOG, but I AM proud of the work I did while I was with them.

Amira Footman 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/amirafootman/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok so I guess I should thank Darkley really, because as much as I disagree with her making a post which, in my opinion, was simply to create a bit of excitement it did make me examine the kind of organization I was working with and after some thinking I decided that while I wasn&#8217;t selling anyone ELSE out I did feel like I was selling myself out. Plus I decided I didn&#8217;t want to feel like I had to hide my opinions on this matter out of fear of losing my &#8216;job&#8217;. Also, out of interest, you may like to see the following conversation I had with the manager of ATOG a week or so ago, perhaps it will clear up the false belief that some people have that ALL ATOG photographers are theives. </p>
<p>[2009/12/17 13:27]  Amira Footmanâ€§: ok, I just got asked to do a morph, and the client said she had the images she wanted morphed and she gave me the link to a couple of pics on deviant art and I was wondering if we had a company policy regarding stealing art for morphs? Because I am not prepared to break the law and I don&#8217;t think we should be promoting such practices to our clients. It&#8217;s not fair on the reps and it&#8217;s not fair on us photographers either to be put in the position where we&#8217;re having to turn work down because we won&#8217;t commit a crime, no matter how insignificant that crime may be to some people.<br />
[2009/12/17 13:27]  Melenda: it is up to you to use them .. if the deviant artist doesnt allow their work to be used then dont use it<br />
[2009/12/17 13:27]  Melenda: some might<br />
[2009/12/17 13:27]  Melenda: but it is a personal decision<br />
[2009/12/17 13:28]  Melenda: explain to the client that is art from someone that doesnt allow you to use it for such a nature<br />
[2009/12/17 13:30]  Amira Footmanâ€§: but don&#8217;t you think it should be a company decision? To say that the company does not promote breaking the law? If we were working for ourselves then yes, I would agree it was a personal decision, but as a company I can&#8217;t help but think it should be something that is a policy, as probably the busiest studio in SL isn&#8217;t it our responsibility to set the standard?<br />
[2009/12/17 13:38]  Melenda: that is something that you would have to talk to mari about not somethign I can make a call on</p>
<p>Lastly, to the people who have tarred every ATOG photographer as being talentless (Tyr! You&#8217;re a good person and you know how long I&#8217;ve championed your talent and efforts, from giving you free advertising while I was working for a magazine, to inviting you to take part in widely publicized a fashion show for free, to blogging about your store, to picturing your stuff on my Flickr. I&#8217;m shocked that you are so willing to throw everyone, even people you don&#8217;t know, into the same basket.) at least hold your condemnation until you&#8217;ve made sure you&#8217;ve at least made the effort to look at every ATOG photographer&#8217;s work, and if that&#8217;s too much effort, well then hold your judgements. I&#8217;m not proud to have worked for ATOG, but I AM proud of the work I did while I was with them.</p>
<p>Amira Footman<br />
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/amirafootman/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/amirafootman/</a></p>
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