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Are Event Organizers Responsible For Knowing What Is In Their Event?

Quick and Dirty Friday Discussion:

Before we go on with this discussion keep in mind that a) it’s not up to ME or ANYONE to decide if the copyright/trademark of anyone has been violated – it’s up to the owners of those marks,etc. b) I am asking a question to the community about the responsibility of event organizers – not accusing the event organizers of the event (that I am not even naming) of anything.  This is an OPINION article only.

I happened to see on Plurk a vendor ad from a designer which had a pack of t-shirts with some designer logos on them.

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I only really noticed the Yves Saint Laurent logo and the use of the Chanel logo. Note that I am in love with the “Feline” shirt (no surprise).

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Here’s the 2 logos in case anyone is wondering what they look like.

I found this article which is a pretty good summary of logos and their place with trademark/copyright : http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2010/08/12/trademark-copyright-and-logos/

So questions I pose to the community are:

Do you think using a company logo in a Second Life t-shirt constitute as trademark/copyright violation?
Do you think that event organizers are responsible for policing/moderating items that designers offer up that may possibly violate copyright/trademarks?

Sound off in the comments.

 

 

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Tough on the outside, sweet on the inside. A regular Lindt truffle. I run this shit and try to keep our noses clean but sometimes that doesn't happen. Notable notes: I love cats.

Comments

  1. Yes they are responsible to police it. If they allow it, it’s tacit permission and support of infringement. Obviously folks can’t know “everything” and stuff might get missed but……….

  2. Organizers are fully responsible for the content sold in their events. I know from experience that the organizers of The Mens Dept and also The Hottie Cooterati events take a very strict stance against copyright violations and do not hesitate to kick out anyone using RL logos/trademarks and/or artwork. Those are events I happily support by spending my Lindens there and blogging them.

    On the other hand I was invited to blog a hunt for men’s items and there were two creators using RL content – a picture from The Transformers movie and a Disney character. When I contacted the organizer and pointed that out she told me she was ‘too busy to check what people offer and it wasn’t her business’. I left that group, muted the owner and didn’t feature the hunt.

    Kinda funny that people on the one hand yell ‘content theft’ when a well-known SL creator’s items get copybotted and on the other hand gladly spend their money on Hello Kitty, Chanel or Disney items. Cause when it hits the ‘big ones’ it’s not really theft, inorite?

  3. Mavi Beck says:

    I do think they are responsible, considering that they also upload the vendor pictures to their own Flickr stream to publicize the event. I don’t even think ignorance applies in this case as the logos used this time (and many other times before by the same designer at the same event) are not of unknown brands nobody has ever heard of. As far as I know people have reported this thing to the organizer of said event and they never got an answer in return. That speaks volumes to me and it is sa sign that they are deliberately ignoring what’s going on.

  4. I think the organizers should be reviewing the stores goods before opening the event to the public. Resorting to using a rl design is tacky and most of the stores that do this obviously can make their own designs. People are just to lazy now a days, they just buy templates and slap on default textures. Makes me not likely to shop at any major fashion event as it’s mostly all just regurgitated templates and copyrighted images. The organizers allowing this to continue just hurt their image and the other stores who take the time to make unique well thought out products.

  5. In this specific instance, I’m curious as to why an sl store that has a very well established brand feels the need to paste a logo from real world brand onto their designs? This creator usually does good original texturing on their stuff, good enough that they are one of the few stores which uses mesh templates that I will purchase from, I’m getting the feeling that this was a last minute “oops I need to have something out for TDR” last minute type deal. Either way, kinda disappointed with a usually cool sl brand, as for whose responsibility it is, it really is the creators, but, much like if it was a student who plagiarized a paper, when the prof becomes aware that the paper was plagiarized, they are obligated to do something about it.

  6. I’m inclined to think the use of the Chanel logo in that context works as parody (like what they did to the Celine logo) and therefore falls under ‘fair use’, but the YSL is just a straight rip. Not OK. And if as an event organiser you’re not able or willing to be aware of everything sold under your umbrella, then either get some extra eyes on it or quit organising events.