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	<title>Comments on: Artist&#8217;s Voice: STOP!</title>
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		<title>By: H_Wheel</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/annoucementsevents/artists-voice-stop/comment-page-1/#comment-43822</link>
		<dc:creator>H_Wheel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a budding creator (and a RL IP attorney) myself, I fully support the awareness campaign. However I can&#039;t get behind physically blocking customers from shops. This sounds like an unbelievably rude way to get your point across. I can&#039;t imagine doing such a thing to my customers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a budding creator (and a RL IP attorney) myself, I fully support the awareness campaign. However I can&#8217;t get behind physically blocking customers from shops. This sounds like an unbelievably rude way to get your point across. I can&#8217;t imagine doing such a thing to my customers.</p>
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		<title>By: Mockba_the_Borg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mockba_the_Borg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well ... that would be a message. 
First of all, we would never be able to make everyone adhere to that... so they would not be bankrupt... but this would prove a point: if they&#039;re going to let content be stolen, or ban people just because someone cried &quot;wolf!&quot;... well ... so why don&#039;t we go to other MMO then? why should I stay in SL if there&#039;s nothing to differentiate it from the other ones?  
Just cash out and let them &quot;read the message&quot;... I bet the next week they would be doing something about it.  (like banning everyone who started the movement, to prevent them from being bankrupt ... lol ... &quot;DOON&#039;T MESS WITH MA MONEY ... BIIIATCH&quot; .... lol) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well &#8230; that would be a message.<br />
First of all, we would never be able to make everyone adhere to that&#8230; so they would not be bankrupt&#8230; but this would prove a point: if they&#039;re going to let content be stolen, or ban people just because someone cried &quot;wolf!&quot;&#8230; well &#8230; so why don&#039;t we go to other MMO then? why should I stay in SL if there&#039;s nothing to differentiate it from the other ones?<br />
Just cash out and let them &quot;read the message&quot;&#8230; I bet the next week they would be doing something about it.  (like banning everyone who started the movement, to prevent them from being bankrupt &#8230; lol &#8230; &quot;DOON&#039;T MESS WITH MA MONEY &#8230; BIIIATCH&quot; &#8230;. lol) </p>
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		<title>By: Man_In_A_Skirt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Man_In_A_Skirt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If everyone cashed out at the same time it would make LL bankrupt. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If everyone cashed out at the same time it would make LL bankrupt. </p>
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		<title>By: Mockba_the_Borg</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/annoucementsevents/artists-voice-stop/comment-page-1/#comment-43775</link>
		<dc:creator>Mockba_the_Borg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cash out all your money, this MAY make LL think about it. 
Is you just &quot;freeze&quot; your commercial relations, you will just keep the money &quot;frozen&quot; at LL accounts, so they can use it to invest. They will be VERY happy about it ... lol. 
Now, if you all cash out ... then they will be aware of something. 
But remember, whoever is doing 500.000L a month, is getting much less than the amount of money LL spends in electricity (or office supplies) for example. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cash out all your money, this MAY make LL think about it.<br />
Is you just &quot;freeze&quot; your commercial relations, you will just keep the money &quot;frozen&quot; at LL accounts, so they can use it to invest. They will be VERY happy about it &#8230; lol.<br />
Now, if you all cash out &#8230; then they will be aware of something.<br />
But remember, whoever is doing 500.000L a month, is getting much less than the amount of money LL spends in electricity (or office supplies) for example. </p>
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		<title>By: Mockba_the_Borg</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/annoucementsevents/artists-voice-stop/comment-page-1/#comment-43774</link>
		<dc:creator>Mockba_the_Borg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is nice to know that, because until now I only saw people claiming they&#039;re &quot;rich&quot; in SL because they make 10000L (?!?). 
It is good to know the real market behind all this. 
Now, the question is, how much of this money does LL sees? because depending of this amount, only then, any movement like this will make them do anything. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is nice to know that, because until now I only saw people claiming they&#039;re &quot;rich&quot; in SL because they make 10000L (?!?).<br />
It is good to know the real market behind all this.<br />
Now, the question is, how much of this money does LL sees? because depending of this amount, only then, any movement like this will make them do anything. </p>
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		<title>By: SRS BSNSS</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/annoucementsevents/artists-voice-stop/comment-page-1/#comment-43773</link>
		<dc:creator>SRS BSNSS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i seriously hope not </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i seriously hope not </p>
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		<title>By:  they might hear us</title>
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		<dc:creator> they might hear us</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a load of crap guys you really think LL cares if they did they would of said something by now , i for one wont change what i do tomorrow ill upload as much as i can due to my business in SL , your only hurting yourselves and just wait and see what LL comes up with , with its spies remember the Homestead issues how many people left the scene never to return???????? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a load of crap guys you really think LL cares if they did they would of said something by now , i for one wont change what i do tomorrow ill upload as much as i can due to my business in SL , your only hurting yourselves and just wait and see what LL comes up with , with its spies remember the Homestead issues how many people left the scene never to return???????? </p>
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		<title>By: amelia</title>
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		<dc:creator>amelia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DOES IT MEAN THERE WILL BE NO 50L FRIDNAY? :( </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DOES IT MEAN THERE WILL BE NO 50L FRIDNAY? <img src='http://shoppingcartdisco.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
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		<title>By: 05486</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/annoucementsevents/artists-voice-stop/comment-page-1/#comment-43767</link>
		<dc:creator>05486</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>all i hear is oh he copied that, shes used copybot blah blah!! im sick of it really. i know its bad, but people will always find a way to copy. ur not gona stop it, especialy with this stupid group </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all i hear is oh he copied that, shes used copybot blah blah!! im sick of it really. i know its bad, but people will always find a way to copy. ur not gona stop it, especialy with this stupid group </p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/annoucementsevents/artists-voice-stop/comment-page-1/#comment-43766</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you ever made anything in sl???? do u  know that some us live from sl income??? why hurt us? this is so stupid. really u should close down this group. Im gona contact lindens </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you ever made anything in sl???? do u  know that some us live from sl income??? why hurt us? this is so stupid. really u should close down this group. Im gona contact lindens </p>
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		<title>By: ppfffff</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/annoucementsevents/artists-voice-stop/comment-page-1/#comment-43765</link>
		<dc:creator>ppfffff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG!!!! PLEASE THIS IS SO ******* STUPID! REALLY ur guys are all going mental. this is just a game come on. Everyone copies everyone even in rl but noone stops producing or buying things. The biggest idiot is the one who created this thing. I hope im not gona lose sales and ill buy even more!!!! looool </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG!!!! PLEASE THIS IS SO ******* STUPID! REALLY ur guys are all going mental. this is just a game come on. Everyone copies everyone even in rl but noone stops producing or buying things. The biggest idiot is the one who created this thing. I hope im not gona lose sales and ill buy even more!!!! looool </p>
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		<title>By: Shattered Howlett</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/annoucementsevents/artists-voice-stop/comment-page-1/#comment-43764</link>
		<dc:creator>Shattered Howlett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 08:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could spend my time writing a thoughtful response to this, but in the end it could be summed up quite simply: 
 
This is bass-ackwards. You&#039;re going about this all wrong. Fail. 
 
This is only going to hurt content creators. This won&#039;t even *touch* Linden Lab. I&#039;m tempted to shop my butt off for the next 2 days just to spite this, because all the designers I love need to pay their bills. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could spend my time writing a thoughtful response to this, but in the end it could be summed up quite simply: </p>
<p>This is bass-ackwards. You&#039;re going about this all wrong. Fail. </p>
<p>This is only going to hurt content creators. This won&#039;t even *touch* Linden Lab. I&#039;m tempted to shop my butt off for the next 2 days just to spite this, because all the designers I love need to pay their bills. </p>
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		<title>By: FAIL </title>
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		<dc:creator>FAIL </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 08:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are all EPIC FAIL !!! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are all EPIC FAIL !!! </p>
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		<title>By: Confused</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/annoucementsevents/artists-voice-stop/comment-page-1/#comment-43661</link>
		<dc:creator>Confused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 08:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I&#039;m not really seeing the benefit of this at all. I agree with Baily, all this protest will accomplish is that the customers who would have shopped at your store are going to go shop at someone else&#039;s store instead for those two days.

Let&#039;s help content creators lose money! That&#039;ll teach LL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I&#8217;m not really seeing the benefit of this at all. I agree with Baily, all this protest will accomplish is that the customers who would have shopped at your store are going to go shop at someone else&#8217;s store instead for those two days.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s help content creators lose money! That&#8217;ll teach LL!</p>
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		<title>By: Baily</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/annoucementsevents/artists-voice-stop/comment-page-1/#comment-43601</link>
		<dc:creator>Baily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 20:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who is in this group anyway, is there anyone with any influence in it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who is in this group anyway, is there anyone with any influence in it?</p>
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		<title>By: Baily</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/annoucementsevents/artists-voice-stop/comment-page-1/#comment-43600</link>
		<dc:creator>Baily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 20:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whose harebrain scheme was this ffs, what a ridiculous notion. Hereâ€™s what will happen.  Customer goes to shop, shop is closed with big ugly signs all over it.  Customer doesnâ€™t give a toss about boycott, doesn&#039;t understand it or even know about content theft, customer goes to another shop that isnâ€™t boycotting and spends their money there.  YOU LOSE, EPIC FAIL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whose harebrain scheme was this ffs, what a ridiculous notion. Hereâ€™s what will happen.  Customer goes to shop, shop is closed with big ugly signs all over it.  Customer doesnâ€™t give a toss about boycott, doesn&#8217;t understand it or even know about content theft, customer goes to another shop that isnâ€™t boycotting and spends their money there.  YOU LOSE, EPIC FAIL</p>
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		<title>By: redgiantess</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/annoucementsevents/artists-voice-stop/comment-page-1/#comment-43597</link>
		<dc:creator>redgiantess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 20:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As much solidarity as I have with content creators and all they put in, I just feel that this won&#039;t amount to much. For those like myself who work by the job and don&#039;t necessarily maintain stores, two days sans income can really hurt. I am reminded suddenly of the &#039;Screwed By LL&#039; people, who felt they could actually reason with the Lab re: asset server issues, grid stability, etc. Stroker Serpentine, as we all know, took the only course of action it will have to take to make the Lab finally get serious: he dragged them to court! What happens afterward is what I&#039;m keeping an eye out for. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much solidarity as I have with content creators and all they put in, I just feel that this won&#039;t amount to much. For those like myself who work by the job and don&#039;t necessarily maintain stores, two days sans income can really hurt. I am reminded suddenly of the &#039;Screwed By LL&#039; people, who felt they could actually reason with the Lab re: asset server issues, grid stability, etc. Stroker Serpentine, as we all know, took the only course of action it will have to take to make the Lab finally get serious: he dragged them to court! What happens afterward is what I&#039;m keeping an eye out for. </p>
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		<title>By: Intellectual Property Protests? What? &#171; NexisONLINE Status Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Intellectual Property Protests? What? &#171; NexisONLINE Status Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 20:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Life (where the Lindens don&#8217;t give a flying fuck).Â  According to the reasoning set forth in the thread, LL will care if 5 people stop selling stuff and lose money for two [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Life (where the Lindens don&#8217;t give a flying fuck).Â  According to the reasoning set forth in the thread, LL will care if 5 people stop selling stuff and lose money for two [...]</p>
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		<title>By: swaffette Firefly</title>
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		<dc:creator>swaffette Firefly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 18:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think this sounds a good idea Sasy - im quite happy not to log in for 2 days - no uploading , no buying. I really want to support the Artists Voice 
but closing my stores proves a problem - not so much because of the lost money but the logistics - i can close my sim but not the mainland stores - with hundreds of prims to cover plus over 80 satellite stores some with 100 prims each to cover - and what about xstreet? - I really want to do something and i will definitely not upload - ive suffered from content theft my self  - but Sasy&#039;s idea i think will make more of an impact on LL if we can get enough people not logging on. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think this sounds a good idea Sasy &#8211; im quite happy not to log in for 2 days &#8211; no uploading , no buying. I really want to support the Artists Voice<br />
but closing my stores proves a problem &#8211; not so much because of the lost money but the logistics &#8211; i can close my sim but not the mainland stores &#8211; with hundreds of prims to cover plus over 80 satellite stores some with 100 prims each to cover &#8211; and what about xstreet? &#8211; I really want to do something and i will definitely not upload &#8211; ive suffered from content theft my self  &#8211; but Sasy&#039;s idea i think will make more of an impact on LL if we can get enough people not logging on. </p>
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		<title>By: Sasy Scarborough</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sasy Scarborough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 23:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I heard about the texture uploading boycott for 24 hours from Step Up, I wondered how that would make a difference, as most would upload the day before and day after, so it wouldn&#039;t change the figures for LL&#039;s weekly income in any way.  
Then I discussed closing sims, as a way of making a stir, because many would wonder and talk about in groups &#039;Why is such and such closed? &quot; and it might spread the message. 
Then I thought that the main way to get LL&#039;s attention would be to not show up at all. 
 
Keep the stores open, upload the day before or after, but do not log in for a full 24 hours, not your mains, not your alts, nothing. 
Spend the week before organising meeting places 
 
Plurk 
WoW 
Yahoo 
Twitter 
 
anywhere that you can gather as residents of Second Life that don&#039;t log in. There are trials for many games, WoW has one for ten days, so everyone could make a new account if they don&#039;t have one and just meet at designated areas. 
 
If WoWs online status went up by 40K and LL&#039;s went down by that same number, well that would surely take some notice. 
 
Just a thought.. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I heard about the texture uploading boycott for 24 hours from Step Up, I wondered how that would make a difference, as most would upload the day before and day after, so it wouldn&#039;t change the figures for LL&#039;s weekly income in any way.<br />
Then I discussed closing sims, as a way of making a stir, because many would wonder and talk about in groups &#039;Why is such and such closed? &quot; and it might spread the message.<br />
Then I thought that the main way to get LL&#039;s attention would be to not show up at all. </p>
<p>Keep the stores open, upload the day before or after, but do not log in for a full 24 hours, not your mains, not your alts, nothing.<br />
Spend the week before organising meeting places </p>
<p>Plurk<br />
WoW<br />
Yahoo<br />
Twitter </p>
<p>anywhere that you can gather as residents of Second Life that don&#039;t log in. There are trials for many games, WoW has one for ten days, so everyone could make a new account if they don&#039;t have one and just meet at designated areas. </p>
<p>If WoWs online status went up by 40K and LL&#039;s went down by that same number, well that would surely take some notice. </p>
<p>Just a thought.. </p>
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		<title>By: RebelWithACause</title>
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		<dc:creator>RebelWithACause</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 07:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who makes at least half that, without trying (and much more when I *do* try), I guarantee it is possible - and there are many more who do much better than I. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who makes at least half that, without trying (and much more when I *do* try), I guarantee it is possible &#8211; and there are many more who do much better than I. </p>
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		<title>By: Fray Jigsaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fray Jigsaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 02:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So...let&#039;s boycott for 2 whole days and then we&#039;ll spend everything we would&#039;ve spent on those 2 days as soon as it&#039;s over? Basically, you&#039;re going to give LL that money, just make them wait 2 days for it? No one&#039;s going to take notice of this except you Artist&#039;s Voice people who will surely be busy congratulating yourselves for being so revolutionary. 
 
Put it like this: If you went into a RL business, were unhappy with something and told them you were gonna boycott them along with all your friends and then you and all your friends showed up 2 days later with unspent cash in hands ready to buy, would that really change their minds? Prolly not.  
 
If you&#039;re truly committed to standing up and making a statement, then stop spending your L altogether, make this boycott a long-standing thing, because in the end you&#039;re no better than the people you accuse of being &quot;whiners,&quot; you&#039;ve just managed to trick yourself into thinking you&#039;re doing something important.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So&#8230;let&#039;s boycott for 2 whole days and then we&#039;ll spend everything we would&#039;ve spent on those 2 days as soon as it&#039;s over? Basically, you&#039;re going to give LL that money, just make them wait 2 days for it? No one&#039;s going to take notice of this except you Artist&#039;s Voice people who will surely be busy congratulating yourselves for being so revolutionary. </p>
<p>Put it like this: If you went into a RL business, were unhappy with something and told them you were gonna boycott them along with all your friends and then you and all your friends showed up 2 days later with unspent cash in hands ready to buy, would that really change their minds? Prolly not.  </p>
<p>If you&#039;re truly committed to standing up and making a statement, then stop spending your L altogether, make this boycott a long-standing thing, because in the end you&#039;re no better than the people you accuse of being &quot;whiners,&quot; you&#039;ve just managed to trick yourself into thinking you&#039;re doing something important.  </p>
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		<title>By: An Artist</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/annoucementsevents/artists-voice-stop/comment-page-1/#comment-43504</link>
		<dc:creator>An Artist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 00:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lourdes, I think you need to read the notice again.  48 hours = 2 full days, not one day.  2 full days of lost sales = too much squeeze on an already squeezed income.   
When I first saw this idea floated, it was 24 hours.  Somewhere along the line it changed.  This will only hurt the people who close. 
I am not boycotting myself for 2 full days, thanks very much.  I will remain open, and I will keep doing what I do, because I fail to see how this will alert LL to anything they don&#039;t already know about. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lourdes, I think you need to read the notice again.  48 hours = 2 full days, not one day.  2 full days of lost sales = too much squeeze on an already squeezed income.<br />
When I first saw this idea floated, it was 24 hours.  Somewhere along the line it changed.  This will only hurt the people who close.<br />
I am not boycotting myself for 2 full days, thanks very much.  I will remain open, and I will keep doing what I do, because I fail to see how this will alert LL to anything they don&#039;t already know about. </p>
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		<title>By: BubbleGum</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/annoucementsevents/artists-voice-stop/comment-page-1/#comment-43495</link>
		<dc:creator>BubbleGum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After taxes and whatnot my family brings home the equivalent of about 500,000L$ and we have a nice apartment and raise a kid and all that.  A &quot;famous&quot; skin creator selling their skins at 10K a fat pack, or 1K each...I could see them making that much and more very easily.  It is certainly not living the high life, but I can see how someone could make enough to get by (if they live in an affordable country/state/province, of course.) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After taxes and whatnot my family brings home the equivalent of about 500,000L$ and we have a nice apartment and raise a kid and all that.  A &quot;famous&quot; skin creator selling their skins at 10K a fat pack, or 1K each&#8230;I could see them making that much and more very easily.  It is certainly not living the high life, but I can see how someone could make enough to get by (if they live in an affordable country/state/province, of course.) </p>
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		<title>By: Ran Garrigus</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/annoucementsevents/artists-voice-stop/comment-page-1/#comment-43494</link>
		<dc:creator>Ran Garrigus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never heard of it before today, actually, so I expect that&#039;s why. I&#039;ll have to read more about it before I&#039;d do something like that. But really, that&#039;s my idea -- an alternative approach to raising awareness and impressing on LL the importance of this issue. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never heard of it before today, actually, so I expect that&#039;s why. I&#039;ll have to read more about it before I&#039;d do something like that. But really, that&#039;s my idea &#8212; an alternative approach to raising awareness and impressing on LL the importance of this issue. </p>
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		<title>By: Mockba_the_Borg</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/annoucementsevents/artists-voice-stop/comment-page-1/#comment-43493</link>
		<dc:creator>Mockba_the_Borg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am seeing lots of forums around where people is complaining about content theft, and complaining that it is hurting the SL economy. 
Then, while sipping on my whisky, and smoking my cigar on the porch of my house in front of the lake, looking down at my brand new red 2010 camaro by the pool, I was wondering: 
How much can someone make out of SL these days? 
One dollar is about 260 lindens, so I was doing a quick calculation here: 
To pay the bills, pay the rent and feed the kids in real life, one should be making at least one million lindens month in Second Life. Is that possible? Is any of you willing to share your expereiences on this field? Any thoughts about this?  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am seeing lots of forums around where people is complaining about content theft, and complaining that it is hurting the SL economy.<br />
Then, while sipping on my whisky, and smoking my cigar on the porch of my house in front of the lake, looking down at my brand new red 2010 camaro by the pool, I was wondering:<br />
How much can someone make out of SL these days?<br />
One dollar is about 260 lindens, so I was doing a quick calculation here:<br />
To pay the bills, pay the rent and feed the kids in real life, one should be making at least one million lindens month in Second Life. Is that possible? Is any of you willing to share your expereiences on this field? Any thoughts about this?  </p>
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		<title>By: Mockba_the_Borg</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/annoucementsevents/artists-voice-stop/comment-page-1/#comment-43490</link>
		<dc:creator>Mockba_the_Borg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 21:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I spoke with an Ex-Linden friend of mine, and he only sent me one word back: &quot;lol!, nou you know why I left the company&quot;. 
 
The fact is that the Lindens don&#039;t care. They have been making from land, and as long as there is land they will be making money (and it is coming from corporation, not from the small seller who rents a 64x64 parcel. 
This small seller (and even the big one) are taking the money OUT of Second Life. And LL does not want that... LL wants the money getting IN, not OUT. 
If you make a viewer that exploits the system and multiplies your lindes, then they will be coming after you with the SWAT and the FBI, but if you steal a few shapes and objects? no way... they don&#039;t give a sh!t. 
You who call yourselfs small sellers or big sellers, are just pennies for them, and they don&#039;t care about you. 
You and your L$10000 inventory (what is that? 25 dollars?) are worth nothing for them. 
You should start seeing this video-game as a video-game by now. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spoke with an Ex-Linden friend of mine, and he only sent me one word back: &quot;lol!, nou you know why I left the company&quot;. </p>
<p>The fact is that the Lindens don&#039;t care. They have been making from land, and as long as there is land they will be making money (and it is coming from corporation, not from the small seller who rents a 64&#215;64 parcel.<br />
This small seller (and even the big one) are taking the money OUT of Second Life. And LL does not want that&#8230; LL wants the money getting IN, not OUT.<br />
If you make a viewer that exploits the system and multiplies your lindes, then they will be coming after you with the SWAT and the FBI, but if you steal a few shapes and objects? no way&#8230; they don&#039;t give a sh!t.<br />
You who call yourselfs small sellers or big sellers, are just pennies for them, and they don&#039;t care about you.<br />
You and your L$10000 inventory (what is that? 25 dollars?) are worth nothing for them.<br />
You should start seeing this video-game as a video-game by now. </p>
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		<title>By: 3blahs1whatever</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/annoucementsevents/artists-voice-stop/comment-page-1/#comment-43489</link>
		<dc:creator>3blahs1whatever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 21:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Selonna - Alright, im sorry.  Im American too, if that makes it at least a little better.  I do realize not all Americans are like that, but  I also realize that many are and in schools we are usually never made aware of other countries and their important and relevant current events, yet they are made very aware of ours. 
 
So with that said, I can go on to reply to SCDs question, as it ties in: 
 
@ SCD - Easy...  Just like some americans are oblivious to the rest of the world, it seems like this group of people here are not taking into consideration that they are only a SMALL sliver of the SL population, so pulling something like this wont work.  I feel we are so inside of our so called &quot;in crowd&quot; box, we forget about everyone else and we forget there are thousands of SL users who have never heard about us.   So, I made the comparison of how sometimes some Americans are the same way in terms of their place in the world in regards to other countries, etc. 
 
Im not against Artists voice or IP rights at all.  But being how only a VERYYYYYYYY small percentage of the SL user base would be even hearing about this &quot;boycott&quot; of sorts, its not going to have any impact on LL.  At least in my opinion its not.  Does that make sense?  Im all for getting LLs attention and pushing them to respect us, but I dont think this will achieve it.  What about the other 95% of SL users who will be uploading, building, buying, and selling? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Selonna &#8211; Alright, im sorry.  Im American too, if that makes it at least a little better.  I do realize not all Americans are like that, but  I also realize that many are and in schools we are usually never made aware of other countries and their important and relevant current events, yet they are made very aware of ours. </p>
<p>So with that said, I can go on to reply to SCDs question, as it ties in: </p>
<p>@ SCD &#8211; Easy&#8230;  Just like some americans are oblivious to the rest of the world, it seems like this group of people here are not taking into consideration that they are only a SMALL sliver of the SL population, so pulling something like this wont work.  I feel we are so inside of our so called &quot;in crowd&quot; box, we forget about everyone else and we forget there are thousands of SL users who have never heard about us.   So, I made the comparison of how sometimes some Americans are the same way in terms of their place in the world in regards to other countries, etc. </p>
<p>Im not against Artists voice or IP rights at all.  But being how only a VERYYYYYYYY small percentage of the SL user base would be even hearing about this &quot;boycott&quot; of sorts, its not going to have any impact on LL.  At least in my opinion its not.  Does that make sense?  Im all for getting LLs attention and pushing them to respect us, but I dont think this will achieve it.  What about the other 95% of SL users who will be uploading, building, buying, and selling? </p>
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		<title>By: Ysanne_Korpov</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/annoucementsevents/artists-voice-stop/comment-page-1/#comment-43486</link>
		<dc:creator>Ysanne_Korpov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 21:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These who know do not care. Almost all who write here know about it and  do not run around stealing stuff. 
 
Your education will achive only a shrug and a &quot;And what should I do about it?&quot; 
 
You are addressing the wrong audience, in my opinion, very much like annoying commercials with forbidden fast forward on bought DVDs, which of course are not visible on stolen versions avaiable in the internet. 
 
 
Sorry I sometimes have difficulties to express myself in english since it is only my third language ;o) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These who know do not care. Almost all who write here know about it and  do not run around stealing stuff. </p>
<p>Your education will achive only a shrug and a &quot;And what should I do about it?&quot; </p>
<p>You are addressing the wrong audience, in my opinion, very much like annoying commercials with forbidden fast forward on bought DVDs, which of course are not visible on stolen versions avaiable in the internet. </p>
<p>Sorry I sometimes have difficulties to express myself in english since it is only my third language ;o) </p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/annoucementsevents/artists-voice-stop/comment-page-1/#comment-43483</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 21:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ran&#039;s right. i have a friend that goes to LL meetings &amp; he asks them all the time about content theft. but he says it&#039;s usually just him &amp; one other person there demanding the issue be addressed.   
 
if you want LL to notice you &amp; your cause, you have to get up in their face about it &amp; let them know you won&#039;t rest till they do something. and from what i hear, the Lindens are almost always stumped when confronted.  take your frustration out on them, not on innocent shop owners. 
 
this idea about closing our stores &amp; encouraging people not to shop at all... sorry, i&#039;d love to support you, but my business can&#039;t afford it.  i&#039;m sure the bigger shops can do it, but us smaller ones (the majority of sl businesses).... this is going to kill us.  please don&#039;t go through with it. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ran&#039;s right. i have a friend that goes to LL meetings &amp; he asks them all the time about content theft. but he says it&#039;s usually just him &amp; one other person there demanding the issue be addressed.   </p>
<p>if you want LL to notice you &amp; your cause, you have to get up in their face about it &amp; let them know you won&#039;t rest till they do something. and from what i hear, the Lindens are almost always stumped when confronted.  take your frustration out on them, not on innocent shop owners. </p>
<p>this idea about closing our stores &amp; encouraging people not to shop at all&#8230; sorry, i&#039;d love to support you, but my business can&#039;t afford it.  i&#039;m sure the bigger shops can do it, but us smaller ones (the majority of sl businesses)&#8230;. this is going to kill us.  please don&#039;t go through with it. </p>
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		<title>By: Ran Garrigus</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/annoucementsevents/artists-voice-stop/comment-page-1/#comment-43481</link>
		<dc:creator>Ran Garrigus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the correction -- 40 it is. Makes it easier to organize. 
 
They can&#039;t really claim it&#039;s not their place to discuss the issues when their office hours relate, for example, to SL architecture, the SL client, the business side of things -- all of these things connect to copyright infringement, whether it&#039;s various bugs that NeilLife has been exploiting or whether it&#039;s generally a matter of policy as it relates to business in SL. 
 
It&#039;s true that in general individual Lindens prefer to stick to a very close script. But if everyone there is contributing meaningfully (and respectfully, so you can&#039;t be painted as overly-aggressive kooks), it will certainly cause more of a stir than this 48 hour business. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the correction &#8212; 40 it is. Makes it easier to organize. </p>
<p>They can&#039;t really claim it&#039;s not their place to discuss the issues when their office hours relate, for example, to SL architecture, the SL client, the business side of things &#8212; all of these things connect to copyright infringement, whether it&#039;s various bugs that NeilLife has been exploiting or whether it&#039;s generally a matter of policy as it relates to business in SL. </p>
<p>It&#039;s true that in general individual Lindens prefer to stick to a very close script. But if everyone there is contributing meaningfully (and respectfully, so you can&#039;t be painted as overly-aggressive kooks), it will certainly cause more of a stir than this 48 hour business. </p>
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		<title>By: Mockba_the_Borg</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/annoucementsevents/artists-voice-stop/comment-page-1/#comment-43475</link>
		<dc:creator>Mockba_the_Borg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I meant encrypted, not encipted... sorry. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant encrypted, not encipted&#8230; sorry. </p>
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		<title>By: Mockba_the_Borg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mockba_the_Borg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mimicat, the only way I can think of is having a closed-source viewer, running over a SSL encripted data stream and having encipted cache also. 
This way no one would be able to tamper with the viewer to make it save other people&#039;s stuff, neither proxy the data stream and rip out things from there. 
Of course that there would be still the bugs in the systems, caused by LL themselves. And there&#039;s always a chance that people would still be able to decript de stream someday, but this would give the creators some time to figure out that SL economy is dead anyways. It was killed long ago by LL themselves. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mimicat, the only way I can think of is having a closed-source viewer, running over a SSL encripted data stream and having encipted cache also.<br />
This way no one would be able to tamper with the viewer to make it save other people&#039;s stuff, neither proxy the data stream and rip out things from there.<br />
Of course that there would be still the bugs in the systems, caused by LL themselves. And there&#039;s always a chance that people would still be able to decript de stream someday, but this would give the creators some time to figure out that SL economy is dead anyways. It was killed long ago by LL themselves. </p>
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		<title>By: LourdesDenimore</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/annoucementsevents/artists-voice-stop/comment-page-1/#comment-43473</link>
		<dc:creator>LourdesDenimore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think the idea is to stop content theft the idea is to make LL aware that content theft is a serious issue and that they need to do a better job of how they handle content theft. 
 
It benefits every content creator in the long run for LL to do a better job at address content theft. 
 
One day of lost sales isn&#039;t going to get anyone evicted from their house, nor will their kids starve. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t think the idea is to stop content theft the idea is to make LL aware that content theft is a serious issue and that they need to do a better job of how they handle content theft. </p>
<p>It benefits every content creator in the long run for LL to do a better job at address content theft. </p>
<p>One day of lost sales isn&#039;t going to get anyone evicted from their house, nor will their kids starve. </p>
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		<title>By: Mimicat</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/annoucementsevents/artists-voice-stop/comment-page-1/#comment-43472</link>
		<dc:creator>Mimicat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate to say it but this is a horrible idea. Some of us use SL as a source of RL income. Why hurt the content creators of SL?  
 
I am for stopping content theft. It harms us all. But this is not the way to do it. Let&#039;s think of something else. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to say it but this is a horrible idea. Some of us use SL as a source of RL income. Why hurt the content creators of SL?  </p>
<p>I am for stopping content theft. It harms us all. But this is not the way to do it. Let&#039;s think of something else. </p>
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