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		<title>By: Sfynx</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/a-possible-answer-to-stemming-the-flow/comment-page-1/#comment-43273</link>
		<dc:creator>Sfynx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this thing sounds like mafia. I see you as a big scammer I dont understand why you cant live in peace with yourself trying to mind your own. Who called the superhero to protect our interests? Oh yes you try to steal moneys selling shit to noobs. Everything you propose here its only shit you arent Sl owner you dont get IP (beside the fact you wont be able). You dont ban any and indeed you are not able to detect Cryolife, its so easy to hide it to every script, also its old viewer and your private viewer can do worse. Who will protect us from you?  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this thing sounds like mafia. I see you as a big scammer I dont understand why you cant live in peace with yourself trying to mind your own. Who called the superhero to protect our interests? Oh yes you try to steal moneys selling shit to noobs. Everything you propose here its only shit you arent Sl owner you dont get IP (beside the fact you wont be able). You dont ban any and indeed you are not able to detect Cryolife, its so easy to hide it to every script, also its old viewer and your private viewer can do worse. Who will protect us from you?  </p>
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		<title>By: trixi</title>
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		<dc:creator>trixi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol ann well, now just tell me how LL is going to get rid of those viewers? IP bans (not available) hardware bns (seem not to work at all)... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol ann well, now just tell me how LL is going to get rid of those viewers? IP bans (not available) hardware bns (seem not to work at all)&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: Tekk_Ixtar</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/a-possible-answer-to-stemming-the-flow/comment-page-1/#comment-42810</link>
		<dc:creator>Tekk_Ixtar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 07:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You seem to implicate anger and jealousy gathered cumulatively from all of your comments here and you are now attempting to attack me personally.  
  
Should you have any mature feedback or concerns, I will be inclined to reply. Contrarily, I will disregard. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You seem to implicate anger and jealousy gathered cumulatively from all of your comments here and you are now attempting to attack me personally.  </p>
<p>Should you have any mature feedback or concerns, I will be inclined to reply. Contrarily, I will disregard. </p>
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		<title>By: Tekk_Ixtar</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/a-possible-answer-to-stemming-the-flow/comment-page-1/#comment-42794</link>
		<dc:creator>Tekk_Ixtar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 04:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May I ask, Ann, what does that have to do with anything? 
 
Edit: Ah, I see. you perceive this is a third party viewer collecting data illegally. &quot;it appears that some of those third party viewers also contain functionality that is being used to copy content without the right to do so, facilitate griefing, enable phishing, collect user data without clear disclosure of such practices&quot;. 
 
Wrong. 
 
&#8226; This isn&#039;t a viewer. 
&#8226; Data is not collected via Second Life; not directly, as I have mentioned numerous times before, and I am perfecting it. I clearly stated in the notes, &quot;With further research, it&#8217;s believed plausible to ban users via IP address. Method will be undisclosed.&quot; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May I ask, Ann, what does that have to do with anything? </p>
<p>Edit: Ah, I see. you perceive this is a third party viewer collecting data illegally. &quot;it appears that some of those third party viewers also contain functionality that is being used to copy content without the right to do so, facilitate griefing, enable phishing, collect user data without clear disclosure of such practices&quot;. </p>
<p>Wrong. </p>
<p>&bull; This isn&#39;t a viewer.<br />
&bull; Data is not collected via Second Life; not directly, as I have mentioned numerous times before, and I am perfecting it. I clearly stated in the notes, &quot;With further research, it&rsquo;s believed plausible to ban users via IP address. Method will be undisclosed.&quot; </p>
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		<title>By: Business-in-your-box</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/a-possible-answer-to-stemming-the-flow/comment-page-1/#comment-42823</link>
		<dc:creator>Business-in-your-box</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 04:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*beneficial </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*beneficial </p>
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		<title>By: Business-in-your-box</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/a-possible-answer-to-stemming-the-flow/comment-page-1/#comment-42822</link>
		<dc:creator>Business-in-your-box</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 04:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ann, I don&#039;t understand why you are opposed to a tool which can only be beneficiary to the community. Tekk is doing a good job, and he deserves to be rewarded for it - which I&#039;m sure he will be, as many people have already stated that they are willing to purchase the device. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ann, I don&#039;t understand why you are opposed to a tool which can only be beneficiary to the community. Tekk is doing a good job, and he deserves to be rewarded for it &#8211; which I&#039;m sure he will be, as many people have already stated that they are willing to purchase the device. </p>
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		<title>By: 3blahs1whatever</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/a-possible-answer-to-stemming-the-flow/comment-page-1/#comment-42815</link>
		<dc:creator>3blahs1whatever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 03:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Umm, he said theyre RARELY banning.  You misread. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm, he said theyre RARELY banning.  You misread. </p>
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		<title>By: Ann Otoole</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/a-possible-answer-to-stemming-the-flow/comment-page-1/#comment-42806</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann Otoole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 02:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a client. And I bet I have been writing software since before you were born kid. And you need to go discuss your system with Linden Lab pronto. BTW that policy sure does apply to your project kid. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a client. And I bet I have been writing software since before you were born kid. And you need to go discuss your system with Linden Lab pronto. BTW that policy sure does apply to your project kid. </p>
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		<title>By: Ann Otoole</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/a-possible-answer-to-stemming-the-flow/comment-page-1/#comment-42783</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann Otoole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;https://blogs.secondlife.com/community/community/blog/2009/10/20/third-party-viewer-policy&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://blogs.secondlife.com/community/community/...&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://blogs.secondlife.com/community/community/blog/2009/10/20/third-party-viewer-policy" target="_blank"></a><a href="https://blogs.secondlife.com/community/community/" rel="nofollow">https://blogs.secondlife.com/community/community/</a>&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: Tekk_Ixtar</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/a-possible-answer-to-stemming-the-flow/comment-page-1/#comment-42720</link>
		<dc:creator>Tekk_Ixtar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The chances of a user obtaining another user&#039;s IP address which is banned within the system that plays Second Life in the same ISP, and in the same location (as hostnames are often unique to city initiails :p), are astronomical. If given the circumstance, however, that those odds miraculously do occur, IP bans can be lifted. (Remember, initially, it&#039;s optional and must be specified if the banning administrator intends to ban via IP.) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The chances of a user obtaining another user&#39;s IP address which is banned within the system that plays Second Life in the same ISP, and in the same location (as hostnames are often unique to city initiails :p), are astronomical. If given the circumstance, however, that those odds miraculously do occur, IP bans can be lifted. (Remember, initially, it&#39;s optional and must be specified if the banning administrator intends to ban via IP.) </p>
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		<title>By: Business-in-your-box</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/a-possible-answer-to-stemming-the-flow/comment-page-1/#comment-42751</link>
		<dc:creator>Business-in-your-box</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 08:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Tekk, you are doing a good job, ignore the negative comments of some of SL&#039;s more notorious &#039;armchair activists&#039; 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Tekk, you are doing a good job, ignore the negative comments of some of SL&#039;s more notorious &#039;armchair activists&#039; </p>
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		<title>By: Tekk_Ixtar</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/a-possible-answer-to-stemming-the-flow/comment-page-1/#comment-42719</link>
		<dc:creator>Tekk_Ixtar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 22:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please read the following posts below this. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please read the following posts below this. </p>
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		<title>By: Ann Otoole</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/a-possible-answer-to-stemming-the-flow/comment-page-1/#comment-42718</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann Otoole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 22:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been doing direct action work for months. And getting real results. Those that know know. The rest don&#039;t need to know. Check around if you don&#039;t believe me. 
 
Oh and BTW he can&#039;t get IP addresses. Period. Unless he is hacking into LLNet and the security system or forcing clients to load web pages without user permission or somehow forcing clients to load media. By all means Go check with Linden Lab before you say I am wrong. Ask Linden Lab if Linden Lab wants this guy logging Linden account IP addresses or resident IP addresses. Ask them. 
 
Why is it the most of the &quot;males&quot; here always hide behind fake names and the women always have the balls to post using their SL names anyway? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been doing direct action work for months. And getting real results. Those that know know. The rest don&#039;t need to know. Check around if you don&#039;t believe me. </p>
<p>Oh and BTW he can&#039;t get IP addresses. Period. Unless he is hacking into LLNet and the security system or forcing clients to load web pages without user permission or somehow forcing clients to load media. By all means Go check with Linden Lab before you say I am wrong. Ask Linden Lab if Linden Lab wants this guy logging Linden account IP addresses or resident IP addresses. Ask them. </p>
<p>Why is it the most of the &quot;males&quot; here always hide behind fake names and the women always have the balls to post using their SL names anyway? </p>
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		<title>By: Talon Lardner</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/a-possible-answer-to-stemming-the-flow/comment-page-1/#comment-42698</link>
		<dc:creator>Talon Lardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do agree that the IP ban, while not ideal, is a good stop-gap idea. An IP address is not as privacy breaking as some may think, though it may result in some being unfairly blocked if they share a large ISP with a legit banned person. Will there be a &quot;white list&quot; for known-good avatars who happen by sheer chance to share an ISP with a banned person? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do agree that the IP ban, while not ideal, is a good stop-gap idea. An IP address is not as privacy breaking as some may think, though it may result in some being unfairly blocked if they share a large ISP with a legit banned person. Will there be a &quot;white list&quot; for known-good avatars who happen by sheer chance to share an ISP with a banned person? </p>
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		<title>By: mad max</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/a-possible-answer-to-stemming-the-flow/comment-page-1/#comment-42668</link>
		<dc:creator>mad max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 17:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been seeing the progress on this since Tekk began, have seen it work. Granted, it&#039;s in development. Granted, it needs more work. But honestly, lighten up, Anne. Unless you have some better ideas in the works, or ANY game-changing or even moderately effective contributions towards dealing with the IP theft issue, then please consider taking a more positive lean towards this idea, instead of poo-pooing all over it. Until LL does something (or does something differently) about the problem, then i think it would be a good idea to give people that are trying to do something about it a reasonable doubt, if not actually contributing to their efforts. The cost of this system as described is valid and necessary. Even if profit was involved, so what? Privatized security works extremely well in most situations, but particularly in cases where no standing force is effective or available. 
 
Unless you have a better idea....put a sock in it while people try to do something positive, regardless of whether those efforts have some effect or none. I don&#039;t recall seeing any revolutionary new technology coming out of the O&#039;toole workshop to help with this problem. 
 
Tekk, keep up the good efforts. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve been seeing the progress on this since Tekk began, have seen it work. Granted, it&#039;s in development. Granted, it needs more work. But honestly, lighten up, Anne. Unless you have some better ideas in the works, or ANY game-changing or even moderately effective contributions towards dealing with the IP theft issue, then please consider taking a more positive lean towards this idea, instead of poo-pooing all over it. Until LL does something (or does something differently) about the problem, then i think it would be a good idea to give people that are trying to do something about it a reasonable doubt, if not actually contributing to their efforts. The cost of this system as described is valid and necessary. Even if profit was involved, so what? Privatized security works extremely well in most situations, but particularly in cases where no standing force is effective or available. </p>
<p>Unless you have a better idea&#8230;.put a sock in it while people try to do something positive, regardless of whether those efforts have some effect or none. I don&#039;t recall seeing any revolutionary new technology coming out of the O&#039;toole workshop to help with this problem. </p>
<p>Tekk, keep up the good efforts. </p>
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		<title>By: AdricAntfarm</title>
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		<dc:creator>AdricAntfarm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is it okay to sell shoes or a dress you can only wear on the screen for 1000L but wrong for someone to sell a product that provides protection?    Hell, let&#039;s go after  the chicken dealers next. 
 
Donation?   Who makes these calls?    Why isn&#039;t a decent penis and HUD a donation?   That Linden birthed me as a ken doll down there is just as wrong. 
 
Oh, I am out of the loop, but these aren&#039;t the fellows taken in by a years ago corrected flaw in SQL that should of been patched are they?    
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it okay to sell shoes or a dress you can only wear on the screen for 1000L but wrong for someone to sell a product that provides protection?    Hell, let&#039;s go after  the chicken dealers next. </p>
<p>Donation?   Who makes these calls?    Why isn&#039;t a decent penis and HUD a donation?   That Linden birthed me as a ken doll down there is just as wrong. </p>
<p>Oh, I am out of the loop, but these aren&#039;t the fellows taken in by a years ago corrected flaw in SQL that should of been patched are they?    </p>
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		<title>By: Tekk_Ixtar</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/a-possible-answer-to-stemming-the-flow/comment-page-1/#comment-42664</link>
		<dc:creator>Tekk_Ixtar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It has nothing to do with the region, however, being locally present to the bot, it is likely. To preserve the security of the method, I am no longer commenting on that topic. Last thing we need is a slew of griefers gathering everyone&#039;s IP. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has nothing to do with the region, however, being locally present to the bot, it is likely. To preserve the security of the method, I am no longer commenting on that topic. Last thing we need is a slew of griefers gathering everyone&#039;s IP. </p>
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		<title>By: Tekk_Ixtar</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/a-possible-answer-to-stemming-the-flow/comment-page-1/#comment-42663</link>
		<dc:creator>Tekk_Ixtar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your kind response. 
 
There&#039;s no form of &quot;getting into viewers&quot;. It&#039;s simply incoming data logged and analyzed. I would tell you more, however, it&#039;s very sensitive data. Just know that it&#039;s not directly via Second Life and it is not against the terms of service. 
 
Even then, the administrators of this blog has your IP address. There&#039;s no harm that can be done with your IP address other than restricting it access, which is exactly what my system does to users that are rightfully banned from the regions owned by the users who utilize the system. Since it is not via Second Life directly, their Terms of Service is not taken into consideration. 
 
As far as the security of Content Protection, the two months I have been innovating the system, has been primarily fail-safes and tight security. More specifically, which is why I located to a dedicated virtual private server, which has no linkage to any other hosts (as average webhosts do). Provided that security, it is more costly. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your kind response. </p>
<p>There&#039;s no form of &quot;getting into viewers&quot;. It&#039;s simply incoming data logged and analyzed. I would tell you more, however, it&#039;s very sensitive data. Just know that it&#039;s not directly via Second Life and it is not against the terms of service. </p>
<p>Even then, the administrators of this blog has your IP address. There&#039;s no harm that can be done with your IP address other than restricting it access, which is exactly what my system does to users that are rightfully banned from the regions owned by the users who utilize the system. Since it is not via Second Life directly, their Terms of Service is not taken into consideration. </p>
<p>As far as the security of Content Protection, the two months I have been innovating the system, has been primarily fail-safes and tight security. More specifically, which is why I located to a dedicated virtual private server, which has no linkage to any other hosts (as average webhosts do). Provided that security, it is more costly. </p>
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		<title>By: Krypt Aeon</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/a-possible-answer-to-stemming-the-flow/comment-page-1/#comment-42661</link>
		<dc:creator>Krypt Aeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t believe hes going into anyones client to get an IP hes just connecting to the region and seeing the IPs connected to it, and registering those connected to a name. Public information cannot be a violation in anyway. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t believe hes going into anyones client to get an IP hes just connecting to the region and seeing the IPs connected to it, and registering those connected to a name. Public information cannot be a violation in anyway. </p>
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		<title>By: Nobody</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/a-possible-answer-to-stemming-the-flow/comment-page-1/#comment-42659</link>
		<dc:creator>Nobody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tekk, no, I am not a troll. I appreciate your work and think you are on the right track. However, the idea of getting the IP from your visitors viewer concerns me. Don&#039;t make the step and go into viewers. There is more information you could get access to. And yes, it is a violation of LL&#039;s TOS. You might be a good guy, I don&#039;t know, but there are others that could access your system in many ways and that means they could get information about your customers and about us content creators. 
 
Colleen, I wish I knew what to do. 
 
And Ann, since so many complain about your posts, I have to say I like them. Don&#039;t smile, I don&#039;t like them all. You are outspoken and say what you think, there should be more people like you. Keep on posting ! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tekk, no, I am not a troll. I appreciate your work and think you are on the right track. However, the idea of getting the IP from your visitors viewer concerns me. Don&#039;t make the step and go into viewers. There is more information you could get access to. And yes, it is a violation of LL&#039;s TOS. You might be a good guy, I don&#039;t know, but there are others that could access your system in many ways and that means they could get information about your customers and about us content creators. </p>
<p>Colleen, I wish I knew what to do. </p>
<p>And Ann, since so many complain about your posts, I have to say I like them. Don&#039;t smile, I don&#039;t like them all. You are outspoken and say what you think, there should be more people like you. Keep on posting ! </p>
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		<title>By: Ann Otoole</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/a-possible-answer-to-stemming-the-flow/comment-page-1/#comment-42658</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann Otoole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you are penetrating the LLNet to see who is logging on and you are hacking the LLNetwork presence database to correlate IP address to resident. I&#039;m sure LL will be pleased to know of your activities. If you have communicated your plans to LL and LL approved please paste the communications in so all can see exactly who at LL has authorized this network surveillance activity that can acquire data from the presence system. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you are penetrating the LLNet to see who is logging on and you are hacking the LLNetwork presence database to correlate IP address to resident. I&#039;m sure LL will be pleased to know of your activities. If you have communicated your plans to LL and LL approved please paste the communications in so all can see exactly who at LL has authorized this network surveillance activity that can acquire data from the presence system. </p>
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		<title>By: Tekk Ixtar</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/a-possible-answer-to-stemming-the-flow/comment-page-1/#comment-42657</link>
		<dc:creator>Tekk Ixtar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and also remember that the system is still in development and there are further amendments not yet mentioned here. Mostly just flexible APIs, optional notices to users, to administrators, and so forth. 
 
If you have any ideas you think would benefit this system, please send me a notecard in-world with your suggestion. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and also remember that the system is still in development and there are further amendments not yet mentioned here. Mostly just flexible APIs, optional notices to users, to administrators, and so forth. </p>
<p>If you have any ideas you think would benefit this system, please send me a notecard in-world with your suggestion. </p>
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		<title>By: Tekk Ixtar</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/a-possible-answer-to-stemming-the-flow/comment-page-1/#comment-42656</link>
		<dc:creator>Tekk Ixtar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heya Ann. 
 
When I sent that note to Tenshi, I informed her that I was unsure if it was complete and was not quite able to process properly due to lack of sleep. 
 
It&#039;s not obtainable through LSL, but through the bot that will be hosted 24/7. &quot;using a 24/7 hosted bot.&quot; I apologize for not explaining everything initially, but I will do my best to explain as much as I can here when available. 
 
Please remember that the system is interconnected through the bot, the web-based system, and LSL. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heya Ann. </p>
<p>When I sent that note to Tenshi, I informed her that I was unsure if it was complete and was not quite able to process properly due to lack of sleep. </p>
<p>It&#039;s not obtainable through LSL, but through the bot that will be hosted 24/7. &quot;using a 24/7 hosted bot.&quot; I apologize for not explaining everything initially, but I will do my best to explain as much as I can here when available. </p>
<p>Please remember that the system is interconnected through the bot, the web-based system, and LSL. </p>
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		<title>By: Krypt Aeon</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/a-possible-answer-to-stemming-the-flow/comment-page-1/#comment-42655</link>
		<dc:creator>Krypt Aeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scanning is instant and region-wide, up to 6,000m. (Expected to increase range before release) 
 
How did you manage that? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scanning is instant and region-wide, up to 6,000m. (Expected to increase range before release) </p>
<p>How did you manage that? </p>
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		<title>By: Ann Otoole</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/a-possible-answer-to-stemming-the-flow/comment-page-1/#comment-42654</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann Otoole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are lying about being able to get my IP address from your LSL scripted device. Prove you can get my IP address without Tenshi&#039;s help or some other website operator&#039;s help. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are lying about being able to get my IP address from your LSL scripted device. Prove you can get my IP address without Tenshi&#039;s help or some other website operator&#039;s help. </p>
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		<title>By: Business-in-your-box</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/a-possible-answer-to-stemming-the-flow/comment-page-1/#comment-42652</link>
		<dc:creator>Business-in-your-box</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that the CryoLife ban is a good idea. 
 </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that the CryoLife ban is a good idea. </p>
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		<title>By: Colleen</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/a-possible-answer-to-stemming-the-flow/comment-page-1/#comment-42647</link>
		<dc:creator>Colleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I  along with several content creators have been using this system for a while now and I am quite fine with it ,L1000 is absolutely nothing to ask for compared to  the amount of work that I know Tekk has put into  this. Really, why must he absorb all the cost for servers etc etc, that would be totally unfair to him. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I  along with several content creators have been using this system for a while now and I am quite fine with it ,L1000 is absolutely nothing to ask for compared to  the amount of work that I know Tekk has put into  this. Really, why must he absorb all the cost for servers etc etc, that would be totally unfair to him. </p>
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		<title>By: Colleen</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/a-possible-answer-to-stemming-the-flow/comment-page-1/#comment-42646</link>
		<dc:creator>Colleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Nobody, what do you suggest we do? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Nobody, what do you suggest we do? </p>
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		<title>By: Trixi</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/a-possible-answer-to-stemming-the-flow/comment-page-1/#comment-42645</link>
		<dc:creator>Trixi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Besides LL is banning people detected logging in with theft viewers anyway. &quot; 
wrong! 
like a week ago some cyrolife user ripped my shape/skin off my ass  at curio. like 5 ppl were ripped, we abuse reported him and hes still there... dot need to sayanything more i guess... 
 
&quot;Should have gone on a donation basis only.&quot; 
hmm... fail? 
there is a server that needs to be paid, right? why should anyone in the whole wide world do such a work on a dontaion basis and never know if he/she/it is even able to pay the servers costs? 
1000L/month is affordable. no need to complain  over that =) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Besides LL is banning people detected logging in with theft viewers anyway. &quot;<br />
wrong!<br />
like a week ago some cyrolife user ripped my shape/skin off my ass  at curio. like 5 ppl were ripped, we abuse reported him and hes still there&#8230; dot need to sayanything more i guess&#8230; </p>
<p>&quot;Should have gone on a donation basis only.&quot;<br />
hmm&#8230; fail?<br />
there is a server that needs to be paid, right? why should anyone in the whole wide world do such a work on a dontaion basis and never know if he/she/it is even able to pay the servers costs?<br />
1000L/month is affordable. no need to complain  over that =) </p>
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		<title>By: Tekk Ixtar</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/a-possible-answer-to-stemming-the-flow/comment-page-1/#comment-42643</link>
		<dc:creator>Tekk Ixtar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s externally obtained - not specifically via Second Life and does not violate any Terms of Service. 
 
IP addresses of users will not be disclosed to any administrators. They will be solely used to deter avatars from creating alternate accounts to bypass bans to repeat offences (i.e. copybotting). Nor is it a hack in any form. It&#039;s simply analyzing incoming data. 
 
I&#039;m not prepared to respond to every attempted troll on this blog, and I am pretty fond of the statistics of how many of you simply come here to troll--however, I will respond to reasonable and respectful concerns. 
 
Attempt to slander or in any way to negate the in-depth work and time I have put into this, as a favor to those whom wish to use it, will be ignored. If you don&#039;t want to participate, that&#039;s fine. I would suggest a common trolling site that others collaboratively troll alongside you; 4chan.org. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s externally obtained &#8211; not specifically via Second Life and does not violate any Terms of Service. </p>
<p>IP addresses of users will not be disclosed to any administrators. They will be solely used to deter avatars from creating alternate accounts to bypass bans to repeat offences (i.e. copybotting). Nor is it a hack in any form. It&#039;s simply analyzing incoming data. </p>
<p>I&#039;m not prepared to respond to every attempted troll on this blog, and I am pretty fond of the statistics of how many of you simply come here to troll&#8211;however, I will respond to reasonable and respectful concerns. </p>
<p>Attempt to slander or in any way to negate the in-depth work and time I have put into this, as a favor to those whom wish to use it, will be ignored. If you don&#039;t want to participate, that&#039;s fine. I would suggest a common trolling site that others collaboratively troll alongside you; 4chan.org. </p>
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		<title>By: Nobody</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/a-possible-answer-to-stemming-the-flow/comment-page-1/#comment-42642</link>
		<dc:creator>Nobody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 13:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>-----Ban users via IP address. With further research, it&#8217;s believed plausible to ban users via IP address. Method will be undisclosed.---- 
 
Looks like you will sneek secretly into your visitors viewer to access their IP address. I believe this is against LL TOS. And I don&#039;t think this is a good move anyway. What else do you see there ? These are cheap hacker methods and have no class at all. What&#039;s next ? Try to switch on your visitors webcam, take a RL snapshot and ban the RL person ?  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8212;&#8211;Ban users via IP address. With further research, it&rsquo;s believed plausible to ban users via IP address. Method will be undisclosed.&#8212;- </p>
<p>Looks like you will sneek secretly into your visitors viewer to access their IP address. I believe this is against LL TOS. And I don&#039;t think this is a good move anyway. What else do you see there ? These are cheap hacker methods and have no class at all. What&#039;s next ? Try to switch on your visitors webcam, take a RL snapshot and ban the RL person ?  </p>
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		<title>By: Tekk Ixtar</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/a-possible-answer-to-stemming-the-flow/comment-page-1/#comment-42641</link>
		<dc:creator>Tekk Ixtar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 13:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://shoppingcartdisco.com/?p=5335#comment-42641</guid>
		<description>Heh. As I have been informed by several residents, you are one to comment on everything to oddly troll, not listening to reason. If a user has been banned in error, administrators can exclude that ban from their system, or a whole set of bans made by an individual. There&#039;s a level system as well; I assume you have not read the post thoroughly. I would like to kindly suggest that you read the entire post instead of the words &quot;Content Protection&quot; and &quot;monthly fee&quot;. 
 
Linden Lab is rarely banning users logging in via third party viewers. At that, it can easily be avoided. 
 
Furthermore, as you seem to be commonly known as a troll here, I would prefer not to explain anything further to you as you refuse to comprehend reason. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh. As I have been informed by several residents, you are one to comment on everything to oddly troll, not listening to reason. If a user has been banned in error, administrators can exclude that ban from their system, or a whole set of bans made by an individual. There&#039;s a level system as well; I assume you have not read the post thoroughly. I would like to kindly suggest that you read the entire post instead of the words &quot;Content Protection&quot; and &quot;monthly fee&quot;. </p>
<p>Linden Lab is rarely banning users logging in via third party viewers. At that, it can easily be avoided. </p>
<p>Furthermore, as you seem to be commonly known as a troll here, I would prefer not to explain anything further to you as you refuse to comprehend reason. </p>
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		<title>By: Ann Otoole</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/a-possible-answer-to-stemming-the-flow/comment-page-1/#comment-42640</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann Otoole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 13:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LMAO tell that  &quot;not forced to use it&quot; line to the residents that get unfairly banned. As I recall being banned is not a resident opt in situation. 
 
Besides LL is banning people detected logging in with theft viewers anyway.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LMAO tell that  &quot;not forced to use it&quot; line to the residents that get unfairly banned. As I recall being banned is not a resident opt in situation. </p>
<p>Besides LL is banning people detected logging in with theft viewers anyway.  </p>
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		<title>By: Tekk Ixtar</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/a-possible-answer-to-stemming-the-flow/comment-page-1/#comment-42639</link>
		<dc:creator>Tekk Ixtar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 13:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://shoppingcartdisco.com/?p=5335#comment-42639</guid>
		<description>@Ann; As stated, there is a balance of power in the system. There will be no revenge bans. Tenshi forgot to mention that users whom simply want to utilize the system&#039;s banlist will NOT be required to pay for it. Only those with the actual power to ban--those of which will be thoroughly observed before granted that power to begin with, specifically to prevent corrupted residents from accessing the system. 
 
Lawsuits for a global collaborative banlist is intangible. Residents aren&#039;t forced to use this system. 
 
As for the actual monthly fee, I was prepared to establish the system free; Current users of the prototype v1.4 have urged me to make it a subscription-based system. Not only does it repay for diligent work, but also for the dedicated server&#039;s monthly hosting fees. The price would be a mere L$1,000. It&#039;s not an attempt at any profit at all, simply to sustain the system. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ann; As stated, there is a balance of power in the system. There will be no revenge bans. Tenshi forgot to mention that users whom simply want to utilize the system&#039;s banlist will NOT be required to pay for it. Only those with the actual power to ban&#8211;those of which will be thoroughly observed before granted that power to begin with, specifically to prevent corrupted residents from accessing the system. </p>
<p>Lawsuits for a global collaborative banlist is intangible. Residents aren&#039;t forced to use this system. </p>
<p>As for the actual monthly fee, I was prepared to establish the system free; Current users of the prototype v1.4 have urged me to make it a subscription-based system. Not only does it repay for diligent work, but also for the dedicated server&#039;s monthly hosting fees. The price would be a mere L$1,000. It&#039;s not an attempt at any profit at all, simply to sustain the system. </p>
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		<title>By: Ann Otoole</title>
		<link>http://shoppingcartdisco.com/digitallife/a-possible-answer-to-stemming-the-flow/comment-page-1/#comment-42636</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann Otoole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should have gone on a donation basis only. Anyone attempting to profit from content protection needs to be universally damned and burned off the face of SL like a cancerous mole. 
 
And it is still subject to lawsuits for it&#039;s inherent flaw of subjective banning that will result in revenge bans. 
 
Fail. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should have gone on a donation basis only. Anyone attempting to profit from content protection needs to be universally damned and burned off the face of SL like a cancerous mole. </p>
<p>And it is still subject to lawsuits for it&#039;s inherent flaw of subjective banning that will result in revenge bans. </p>
<p>Fail. </p>
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